Hi people,

I'm new to this forum so I thought I'd say hello and introduce myself by way of a new song

http://soundcloud.com/vesperbelles/ceiling-falls

Any constructive criticism much appreciated.

Thanks!

David

welcome spaceblimp

great atmosphere & lovely vocals,
very nice arrangment
mix sounds a little cloudy, gtrs 'boomy' in places but good stuff
like it very much
can you post the lyrics ?
all the best,
nooms

Hi, thanks for the feedback really appreciated.

I know what you mean about the guitar, it was close miked and I haven't EQed it to remove the boomy-ness. I also need to get a better handle on mixing as things can get a bit wooly so I'll maybe have a relook at that too, thanks.


Lyrics:


Ceiling Falls


Evening calls, ceiling falls I lie here,
Say the name, tell me again make it so clear.

No sleep till I'm, five hundred miles to see you,
Hear you say, give away all that I fear.

'Cause I know, seems like I am far behind you
Come on, take my hand, does it remind you of...

Ceiling falls, I see it all lying
Where is home, by instinct drawn be beside you.

I'll take, all my life to say goodbye to,
Sometime when you know you'll find me right here.

I don't want you to compromise on the judgements in your life
I know I've lost all we had tonight
So look me in the eye, and tell me why.

One more kiss, live like this forever
In your hand, was your man
More now than ever

I'll take, all my life to say goodbye to,
Sometime when you know, you'll find me right here.

(as we unfold, find in ourselves, a hollow)

I don't want you to compromise on the judgements in your life
I know I've lost all we had tonight
So look me in the eye, and tell me why.

spaceblimp
just played it again, great track, vocals really emotive and like the lyrics...
looking forward to hearing more ..

its a good idea to review a few tracks by others that way you'll get a fair feedback on your own work

nooms

I can't hear your voice but I like the atmosphere that this song creates, just make your vocals louder...

I've just re-jigged the mix a bit to make it less muddy (I hope) and bumped up the volume a little )

http://soundcloud.com/vesperbelles/ceiling-falls-acoustic-mix-2


I'll have a look at some other post and review some tracks, thanks for the advice.

hi david
clearer mix but gtr still a little boomy..imo
could take a tad bass off and pull it back a little as at this volume it argues a little with its neighbours,
thing is to me, the first version has more atmosphere...
i hope im not messing you up here..
so if it was mine, id retrace steps and try and be a little more subtle on what gets altered...

still a beauty though and well worth the trouble..

some good folks on here with great advice about eq, so hold fire for a while for comments

nooms

Hi David & welcome,

this is a really nice song with great atmosphere, you have spent a lot of time on it & your arrangements are really good too. The voices are great as are the string arrangements & sounds. My criticisms would be that it is a bit wooly where the lead vocal & BV's are concerned, maybe could be improved with compression. Maybe try a remix bearing in mind that Soundcloud will make certain parts appear lost!!! Nice one 

Hiya

This is really good. You have clearly thought hard about the arrangement. The vocals are really good and to

good lyrics. The backing vocals sound like they are great too but everything is getting clogged up. The vocals, guitar

and backing vocals seem to be all on one level and competing with each other.

Dropping a lot of bass off the guitar would go quite some way to improving this I think.

Really enjoyed this though. Very nice indeed

I am loving this! Very atmospheric. Great counterpoint melodies and harmonies and feels very original. Awesome work!

The only constructive critisism I can offer is related to the main vocal. Perhaps edit the EQ to crisp it up. Drop a few notches off the low mids with a wid Q setting, and use the EQ "Air" trick...

Set a parametric EQ fader to 14K. Q roughly 0.8. Boost up by 3-5db. USE YOUR EARS! The main vocal should open up, dependant on the source sound and the mic/room combo at source. You will then likely need to drop the vocal in the mix a very tiny bit!

Hope that helps

Again, ace work! I even favourite'd you on soundcloud

this forum is more and more turning in to a home recording forum. this is just a great song.



gr.    Dan

You don't have to like other peoples reviewing styles Chef  Just concentrate on your own mate 

People have different area's of expertise

and sometimes when a song is good and the only thing letting it down is the recording, people will focus on that.

Thanks so much for the feedback, that's really great stuff.

The EQ-ing advice is really handy, I need to learn how to EQ properly as it's something I avoid doing as I'm not really very sure or confident about it.

I record my vocals in my wardrobe, with clothes hung on the open doors to dampen the sound and make a booth, and I use monitor headphones to mix the sound, which cost me £6 from a local discount shop, so feedback on how it's sounding is really useful.

I'm just new here so I'm going to scout round the forums a bit and get to know the place.

I'll post up a new mix when I've worked on the song a bit more. 

Thanks guys.

Dp

hahaha. Really in the wardrobe! That's the first time I've heard that but very inventive 

I'm like you as well mate. I used to have to use one of those cheap headsets with a built in mic

that you can pick up cheaply from Asda  Now I have a much more expensive set that are supposed to be

studio headphones but they still can't match up to having good monitors. So i also appreciate any feedback

concerning how the mix sounds.

I sometimes burn what I have done onto a cd and play it in the car. Then I can see what settings I have to have it on

compared to other bought cd's. That way I can see how much volume loss there is or how there is too much bass

or whatever. The feedback on here is the most invaluable though

Greetings Lee

Wonderful, one of my favourite songs that I've heard for a while on this forum! 

Best wishes

Paul