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Two songs, one lyric?

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skogge

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« on: March 28, 2015, 02:22:34 PM »
Hiya all

1. If someone asked my permission to use a lyric, what should I think about?

2. In this (and one earlier case) the lyric is not a standalone one. It is used by me in my own, unfinished,  song. But I guess in these times of sampling, remixing and piracy anything is possible… :D
Two songs share the same lyric. Good or bad?

All advices on these subjects appreciated :-)

/ skogge

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2015, 04:56:11 PM »
If you own all the writer and publishing rights then no issue at all

If one of your songs were released the publisher/label would likely want to restrict the use of any part of the song (lyric and melody) to the song they are pushing
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2015, 03:53:43 PM »
If you own all the writer and publishing rights then no issue at all

If one of your songs were released the publisher/label would likely want to restrict the use of any part of the song (lyric and melody) to the song they are pushing

The only "ownership" I can claim is that I wrote it/them. I don´t work with any publisher of any kind since I am an amateur to the core...

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 04:14:54 PM »



 I think its great when different people work on the same lyric
 it just shows how different it can be done
 and no matter where it goes you own the write on it
 and if you work on a 50/50 basis then if something happens with it
 then you win,

 I think the cream always rises to the top
 so if something is good enough and the performer musician is good enough
 it will find its place, lyricists want the best singer / musician / production they can get
 just like in reverse they look for the best lyrics,
 if the two come together one day fantastic

 I say copyright your work and get it out there to be used





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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 07:28:17 AM »
Its all up to the individual. But if yiu look at the professional scene you dont see multiple copies of successful lyrics set to a variety of backing tracks. There may be exceptions out there but by and large artists liake Bernie Taurpin never let anyone else use a lyric that he had Given to Elton John to work on. Just saying.

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2015, 02:04:57 PM »

 HEY GUYS

 I see the point being made here but Bernie Taurpin had found his success in Elton
 and that is very handy to have

 however MY WAY,  has been covered by god knows how many artists over the years
 and many other lyrics / songs it goes on all the time
 Elvis didn't write and I don't think he had a specific wrier for him
 so he just picked up a lyric and did it, I think he beat some one to SWEET CAROLINE
 could be wrong on that IT'S A FUNNY OLD GAME

 I think we all strive to find one partner and success but is it realistic or rare

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2015, 10:18:12 PM »
Best version of My Way......Sid Vicious, I still laugh when I watch the video  ;D

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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2015, 10:19:17 PM »
If you own all the writer and publishing rights then no issue at all

If one of your songs were released the publisher/label would likely want to restrict the use of any part of the song (lyric and melody) to the song they are pushing


This is a very important part of this discussion, as, if the lyric in question has been used with permission by other musicians there is no way the publisher could restrict the usuage of the lyric without a buyout. In this case their interest in the song or lyric presented to them would evaporate. A lost opportunity to both the lyricist and the musician.