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"Break My Heart" gonna be recording it soon, but the lyrics need tweaking!

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PopTodd

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« on: September 19, 2014, 08:12:17 PM »
Wondering if you could give me a little help in that area?
Thanks!

Break My Heart

1.
Break my heart
I want to feel what you’re feeling
Break my heart
And steady me as I go reeling
Break my heart
I want to know what you’re going through
So break my heart
It’s the only way I’ll understand you

The only way to make you see
Is to show you what you can do to me
So rip my chest open wide
And tear out what you find inside
Then...

Break my heart
And use the pieces to put yours back together

2.
Break my heart
And I will try not to repeat myself
Break my heart
It’s the only way that you can help
Break my heart
I really don’t know what else I can say
So break my heart
And we’ll make it through another day

The pain won’t hurt me all that bad
You’ve given me more than I ever had
Before I didn’t have a clue
To the first thing that a love could do

So…
Break my heart
Then use the pieces to put yours back together


(bridge)
do do do…

(solo) 

3.
Break my heart
I know I’ve said this all before
Still, break my heart
Then pick me back up off the floor
And break my heart
I want to be a part of you
So break my heart
And let me know what you’re going through

Just shatter me upon the floor
Because I don’t want to exist no more
I cannot do this all alone
So plaster me in to your own
And…

Break my heart
And use the pieces to put yours back together
Put yours back together…


©2013 Todd Leiter-Weintraub

tokenangmoh

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2014, 05:36:09 AM »
Hi.

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Break my heart
I want to feel what you’re feeling
This is a fantastic start that sucks me right in. It's a very strong concept for a song.

But it feels like you're having some difficulty developing the idea. There are a lot of filler lines, like:
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I want to know what you’re going through
which is a rephrase of line 2, and:
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And I will try not to repeat myself
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I really don’t know what else I can say

Also, the story becomes unclear to me. I had thought it was about a guy who has just dumped his partner, and wants to know what it feels like to be as devastated as she is. He's grasping for any emotion strong enough to make him feel. It's a cruel and disturbing concept, and I really like it.

But...
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So break my heart
And we’ll make it through another day
...along with V3 made me question my interpretation. I don't see how if they each break each other's hearts, it will help their relationship... Well, maybe I can just about see some logic in that, but it pushes the cruelty too far for me. Instead of seeing a guy who finds it impossible feel, I see a guy who plays evil mind games with his partner: "Yes, I just devastated you - but if you're clever enough to rise to the challenge and devastate me, then I'll take you back. Give it your best shot!"

I think much of the issue is that your verses should probably be choruses. The repetition of "Break my heart" keeps pulling the lyrics back to the same area of meaning and makes it difficult to develop a story. I think it'll be a great chorus, though. And then you can develop the context with more pliable verses.

Hope that's useful,

Matt

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 05:29:42 PM »
Hey Token!
Thanks for your feedback. You know, I was never trying to state that the narrator was the one who broke the other's heart in the first place, but that the narrator was trying to empathize with the object of his/her affection and to show them what he/she was willing to do for their love. The sacrifices willing to be made.

But, the fact that you misread it, highlighted to me the fact that I was not being clear and gave me some good inspiration to go back for a rewrite. I still think that there are some tweaks needing to be made, but it's definitely closer. (Most of the changes are in the 3rd verse)

What do you think?


1.
Break my heart
I want to feel what you’re feeling
Break my heart
And steady me as I go reeling
Break my heart
I want to know what you’re going through
So break my heart
It’s the only way I’ll understand you

The only way to make you see
Is to show you what you can do to me
So rip my chest open wide
And tear out what you find inside

Break my heart
And use the pieces to put yours back together

2.
Break my heart
I know I’ve said this all before
Still, break my heart
Then pick me back up off the floor
Just, break my heart
I want to be inside of you
So break my heart
And let me know what you’re going through

Just shatter me upon the floor
Because I don’t want to exist no more
I cannot do this all alone
Take all I have for your own
And…

Break my heart
And use the pieces to put yours back together


(bridge)
do do do…

(solo)


3.
Break my heart
I really don’t know what else I can say
So break my heart
And give me hope for another day
Break my heart
Even though I don’t deserve it
Break my heart
What you gave to him, I want to earn it

I know he hurt you really bad
But I can give you more than you’ve ever had
You’ve never really had a clue
Of all that I could give to you

So…
Break my heart
Then use the pieces to put yours back together
Put yours back together…

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 06:55:23 PM »
I saw the title and thought - oh-no not another "broken heart" lyric but it has a masochistic twist where the singer asks for his heart to be broken - and that makes it unique. There are some good lines in there and it flows well - I just worry that potential listeners won't get by the title..
Paul

PopTodd

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 07:22:29 PM »
I saw the title and thought - oh-no not another "broken heart" lyric but it has a masochistic twist where the singer asks for his heart to be broken - and that makes it unique.
:D

I just worry that potential listeners won't get by the title.

Just another layer, eh? Something new to discover, when one actually listens to the tune.
;)

I can't wait for y'all to actually hear this thing, because I think it's gonna be pretty cool. New wave power pop w/ a 12-string electric giving it a Byrds-like twist.
Recording in January.

tokenangmoh

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 12:20:19 PM »
Hi again.

Yes, that makes more sense.

But it only makes complete sense to me at:
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I know he hurt you really bad
But I can give you more than you’ve ever had
You’ve never really had a clue
Of all that I could give to you
Until that point I'm still a bit vague on the scenario, so I'd maybe consider swapping the above section with:
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The only way to make you see
Is to show you what you can do to me
So rip my chest open wide
And tear out what you find inside
I'm pretty sure I'd be clear from the start if you did that.

The only other thing I'd have a think about is "I want to be inside of you". Perhaps it's just my dirty mind and perhaps not - but either way it lowers the tone... 8)

Nice write!

Matt

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 01:50:52 PM »
Thanks Matt.
I thought that about the "inside of you" thing, too. But, was willing to go with it just because it flows better. But you're probably right. I'll give that a quick re-rewrite.

And I had those sections in the order that you mentioned them, originally , but I switched switched them, just because it seemed to me that the "hurt you really bad…" was a good way to end the story, to wrap it up.

But I see what you're saying. I'll keep working it.
Thanks, again!

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 08:10:16 AM »
Nothing more to add.

Just want to say I think this is positively brilliant.

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 09:03:56 PM »
opTodd, great song and loads of scope for the music here.  The only bit that disturbs me is "rip my chest wide open", which seems a bit graphic (but then I write a lot of songs about vampires, werewolves and zombies so it could just me mr).  I would consider "rip my life wide open" though.
cheers,
GTB

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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 01:15:35 PM »
Nothing more to add.

Just want to say I think this is positively brilliant.
Thanks!

opTodd, great song and loads of scope for the music here.  The only bit that disturbs me is "rip my chest wide open", which seems a bit graphic (but then I write a lot of songs about vampires, werewolves and zombies so it could just me mr).  I would consider "rip my life wide open" though.
cheers,
Thank you, GTB. And the music is already written. I'm recording this in January (just booked the studio), just needed the lyrics tweaked before I went in. I think that they're at least at a point where, if I recorded the song with what I have now, I wouldn't be horribly embarrassed.
Interesting thought about the graphic image. I'll ponder, but I kinda like the way it sings with "chest."

Thanks to everyone for some really great feedback.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 01:53:20 PM »
it's innovative, and fresh 'looking'...I haven't heard the melody etc...

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2014, 06:43:04 PM »
For those of you curious as to what the melody is for this thing, here is a link to my scratch tape that I made on the day that I started writing it.

Please note:
This is a SCRATCH tape.
Recorded for my own benefit, because I do not read or write music. So, the vocals are more than sketchy. And the lyrics were not yet written in stone at ALL.
So, imagine the newest version of the lyrics that I have in this here thread being sung… competently.
 ;)

I'll be recording it with a Tele, bass, drums, and an electric 12-string guitar. (Probably playing lead on that 12-string.)

So, just so you can imagine the lyrics in context, here you go:
https://soundcloud.com/poptodd/break-my-heart

Let me know if this does anything for ya.

Thanks!

PopTodd

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 12:38:10 PM »
Rehearsing it again tonight.
Any thoughts so I can tweak before rehearsal?