For all that we've seen...

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Vandoorne

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« on: March 10, 2021, 10:31:40 AM »
Hi, I'm new here, hope you can help. I thought I needed to reach out more as I think I'm writing in a bit of a vacuum and think I'm far too close to the lines at this moment having changed them up a million times!

My head is in a war about the two simple lines below:

For all that we've seen,
We haven't seen it all before.

Which is the start of a verse and fits well with the rest in rhyme and rhythm.

My struggle is that does it actually make sense?

The intention is:

We have seen a lot together, but there's still lots more to find out

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Neil C

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2021, 10:51:39 AM »
@Vandoorne
Hi, and welcome.

My first thought is great you got a concept to write about and some starting lines.

There's maybe a couple of ways I'd think about approaching it:
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You could think about structure and start with what you might want to say in the verses.
So the first verse might be to describe the situation or starting the story historically with
We've seen a lot together...

The second verse might be about where we are today, and the third verse about the future.

And I'd use your two lines for the chorus and although they're of different lengths I'd build on that, perhaps like this:

For all that we've seen
We haven't seen it all before.
For all that we've know ( or had maybe?)
We know there still a whole lot more

The other approach might be to just write stuff down, stream of conciousnesss, no editing. Or interview yourself with a set of questions, and write down your answers. Overwriting is good, and then you focus on the best bits and modify. And then sift through and refine. Start to structure, with consistency of the repeating elements. Are the verses four line?, stanza's, rhyming schemes etc. When you read out aloud a really good set lyrics they'll just feel naturally formed.   

I think there are lots of resources around, including on this site under writing process. Nut the main thing is not to over thing or self edit, get some stuff down and then work it around.
Hope this helps and look forward to seeing where you get with this.
:-)
neil




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Vandoorne

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2021, 04:21:15 PM »
Hi Neil,

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply on this, I really appreciate it.

Your feedback is great and has definitely given me something to think about.

I'm glad the wording actually makes sense as a concept, that's a start right?!
Top tip on over editing, I'm my own worst enemy for that.

Thanks again.

Veance

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2021, 10:44:09 PM »
@Vandoorne Is that a dutch or Belgian name?
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