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OLD-Janos

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« on: November 01, 2020, 04:35:48 PM »
Hi everybody,
I composed a lot of songs but unfortunately the songs doesn’t have lyrics. I'm looking for a songwriter.
I’m not young man and before I die I want to finish my musical ideas. That's stupid, isn't it? Or not?
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2020, 04:56:28 PM »
This is the right board for you. Look through the posts on this board (Lyrics). There are LOTS of lyrics here. Find something you like and contact the writer to work out an agreement. Most of the lyricists here, I believe, would be happy to hear their words set to music.

Good luck with your music!

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2020, 07:29:01 AM »
Here is a post I put on the collaborations section over two years ago in response to a post just like yours.  Your ad might be in total good faith, and this might not apply.  But my post points out a rather disturbing pattern that repeats itself after posts just like yours.  This is what people will be (or at least should be) on guard for when they see an ad like yours.  If you are a legitimate seeker of collaborations, then the post lets you know how to signal that.  If you don't signal that you are legitimate with some time and effort of your own invested, then no one should respond to you. 

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List of questions to ask yourself when a total stranger posts here asking for collaborators.  This is written as though the “poster” is seeking lyrics for his music, but the questions are equally applicable if it’s a lyricist looking for musicians. 

A collaboration is an “investment of time” from both parties.  If one of the collaborators signals that he/she isn’t willing to invest much into finding a collaborator, it’s pretty likely that he/she won’t be willing to invest much into the collaboration either.   

HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD ASK BEFORE "SUBMITTING" your work to someone asking for collaborator.  This does not apply if you know the person btw. 

1.  Is this person even going to check back to see if anyone responds?  A surprising percentage of the time, these are just ‘drive by postings’ which the “poster” never comes back to.  It is not atypical for several people to respond to such requests and the “poster” is never heard from again.  These “drive by postings” are really just the forum equivalent of vandalism.  They steal your time, create an impact on you, and require nothing of the vandal. 

2.  If this person was REALLY serious about seeing/hearing your lyrics, why wouldn’t he/she just go and read through the archives to find out who is actually writing lyrics that are what he/she wants?  If the poster is not willing to invest a little bit of effort to read/listen to your work to “limit the field,” is he/she really going to be willing to invest in a collaboration?

3.  Did this “poster” give any detailed information regarding what he/she is looking for so that you don’t waste your time just submitting lyrics by guessing what he/she wants?  If the “poster” isn’t willing to invest the little bit of time providing some specific input regarding what he/she wants, is he/she likely to invest in an actual collaboration?

4.  Did this “poster” mention (or imply) that he/she is a musical genius that you would be lucky to work with?  If so, are you aware that this makes it almost certain that he/she is just stroking his/her own ego by “soliciting” lyrics which he/she will either fail to even come back to read or find to be “beneath” his/her genius accompaniments?  The goal of the “self labelled geniuses” here has tended to be to be getting as many lyricists as possible to fall all over themselves “submitting” lyrics for him/her to ignore or reject.  Net result – waste of your time and enhancement to the geniuses ego at your expense.   

5.  Did this “poster” provide any samples of his/her music so that you can decide whether his/her music would be worth adding your lyrics to?  If not, just how serious could he/she BE about finding the right lyrics for his/her music?  If he/she isn’t willing to invest in making his/her music available to hear, just what IS he/she willing to invest into collaborating?

So, what’s my point.  It’s this.  Before you fall all over yourself “submitting lyrics” to someone who advertises here for collaborators, make a non-committal post to ascertain what he/she is really looking for.  If you get no response, you haven’t wasted hope and time. 

Don't play into the hands of vandals by getting your hopes up without taking some precautions.  Hope is more vital than time.  Don’t waste it on someone without getting some real commitment in return.       END OF OLD POST.

THAT SAID,  if you are legitimately looking for collaborators, AND willing to invest in finding some, this place should be a gold mine for you  --  IF (and only if) you are willing to do some work mining for the nuggets.  All the veterans here have responded to an ad (or multiple ads) like yours before, only to find that the poster of the ad doesn't ever come back and respond.  Signal that you are here and genuinely interested in participating.  You do that by responding to every response you get, and by doing some 'digging' to find out who writes lyrics that would work for you. 

Sterix is an exceptional lyricist who doesn't write much of his own music. And he doesn't need to say so himself.  Others (like me) will say it for him. Additionally, if you are really interested in doing some research to find exceptional lyrics, a lot of the best lyricists from this forum have stopped posting because it's been dead for lyricists lately (these things run in cycles) but are still members.  A run through the archives would yield far more results than just the last few months -- or even the last year. 

If you are seriously committed to finding lyrics, I would be happy to get you a list of the "no longer here" lyricists who wrote exceptional things and you could still contact most of them through this forum. 

Additionally, I myself have hundreds of lyrics I haven't had time to write music for, and (like you) am getting old enough to realize that I'm not going to have time to get to them in this lifetime. 

If you are serious, and willing to invest your own time, I'll do anything I can to help.     

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