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MonnoDB

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« on: October 03, 2019, 10:17:10 PM »
Hi All,

Here's another cheery number from me  :)! Ok, it's not at all cheery.. a bit of a theme of mine and the one that brought me to writing and then songwriting.. But it is what it is I guess - sometimes they just pop out.

Sounding Board O'@Jambrains is as always to be thanked for input and support in the background  :) 

As usual I've gotten to that certain point in the mixing when I can't hear what I need to change.. yes, even in 1+1s.. So any and all feedback is appreciated.. Be brutally honest please!

Karen.

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I am numb
I’ve forgotten how to feel
I have become
An impenetrable shell of steel
I won’t succumb
To their appeals
They beat their drum
But I will not reveal

What goes on inside my head
I won’t be drawn, I can’t be read
I’ve run out of tears to shed
My oath is etched upon your grave
I won’t let go, I won’t be saved

I am alone
It’s best that way
I ignore the phone
I have no words today
If they think that I’m not home
Maybe they’ll go away
Cos they just want to know
What I cannot say

What goes on inside my head
I won’t be drawn, I can’t be read
I’ve run out of tears to shed
My oath is etched upon your grave
I won’t let go, I won’t be saved

My words are only mine to hear
I made a promise I will keep
I close my eyes and you’re with me
For now I've everything I need

What goes on inside my head
My vision’s dull, my passion’s dead
I have no heart, I’ve stone instead
My oath is etched upon your grave
I won’t let go, I won’t be saved
 

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 11:01:48 PM »
Hi Karen, well this is a very sombre number and I hardly feel qualified to comment, what with my daft songs about ugly babies etc!

Still, I did love that very dramatic and moody piano for a start and thought this song really suited that stripped back 1+1 treatment.

You have a very pithy vocal style that mixes bitterness with an underlying sweetness, and a Celtic gift for melody and poetry that all blends together to concoct a really unique appeal. Sparing harmonies all added to the beauty of it all.

(But if you are ever over in Liverpool me and my missus will take you out on a daft and drunken night out and get all this misery out of you once and for all  ;D ...just joking, of course!)

Another very unique and special song to add to an already quality collection!

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2019, 08:40:24 AM »
Very dark and quite theatrical, I could hear this as part of a West end show such as Les Miserables for instance, all I would suggest is maybe introducing some dark moody strings in the last third but otherwise..a very strong piece.. :)
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2019, 10:01:58 AM »
@shadowfax thanks so much Kevin. Hear you on the strings but I really suck at that sort of thing and anyway with dark songs like this sometimes I think strings can push them over the emotional edge.. but I think that's just me..  ;D

Haha @MichaelA I'd say that would be quite a night!! I'm happy to report that songwriting is a very effective route for my misery ;D ;D. The rest of the time I'm a cheery sort :)! And while some of the misery in my songs is personal, not all of it is, to me at least :)!


(But if you are ever over in Liverpool me and my missus will take you out on a daft and drunken night out and get all this misery out of you once and for all  ;D ...just joking, of course!)


Thanks a mill for the lovely comments... they are very much appreciated.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 12:19:39 PM »
Very well crafted song, a very unique voice which i liked.

Thought it had a really cool melody to it :)

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 12:41:35 PM »
@MonnoDB - Just taking a listen, and writing this

Very nice, can't add anything, don't change it.

Just fine as it is.

btw, your lower register Vox is very cool, could be something you experiment with in future...

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2019, 01:55:42 PM »
Hi Karen, lovely song. I love dark, sad songs and you always deliver.🎶👊🏻🎶

 To me though the piano is too loud. It is competing with your vocal in places where really imho it needs to stay in its lane.😁 As soon as I finished listening to yours I went on spotify and listened to Adeles "someone like you" for a reference point. Now I'm not saying everyone should mix like Adeles team, (the piano style is different for a start.) but it was just to back up my own thoughts as a reference.

So yeah...do with this as you will. 🤪I am only listening on apple pods if that helps.👍🏻

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 02:18:32 PM »
Cheery is ok!
I like the piano vocal combination - it draws me in as listener.
Sounds intense. And really like it when the second vocals kick in, I get a touch of Stevie Nicks!
I agree with Leo your vocals could be a bit more up front, without losing the intimacy, not quite Adele who's vocals dominate..
Lots to like here
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 02:52:06 PM »
This is an excellent moody piece @MonnoDB Karen. Personally I would like the 1+1 and wouldn't add anything to it. Your vocal work is top notch and I love the harmonies. I also like your lower vocal work - Quite a range on this one. My only tiny nit would be as Leo has mentioned, would reduce the piano volume a tiny, tiny tad.

A top quality piece of work
 

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 07:32:49 PM »
Really lovely, this...I loved the stripped-back feel and the piano is very tasty...though I'd perhaps agree that it could go down just a tiny bit to let that wonderful voice shine through some more...but then again, I do like the understated feel of the vocal...it's not yer big, bold, showbiz "look at MEEEE" kind of thing and maybe that's one of the reasons I like it so much.

Lyrics are great...and made me want to know more...I particularly liked the line about the heart of stone...my Ma used to say to me "you haven't got a heart, you've got a swinging brick" although I'm <sure> she was only joking.

A very lovely thing indeed.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 09:47:25 PM »
Yo Karen.

I always eagerly anticipate a new song from yourself and I always know I'm going to love it.

I believe the simplicity of the arrangement compliments the song very well and while further additions may work,I think it would just be another version,not necessarily better. There's always the temptation to tinker,but sometimes leaving well enough alone is the right thing.

Perhaps,the reason you are unsure of any changes is because there are none needed.

I'd echo the consensus of the vocal/piano balance being a little weighted toward the piano,but it's a very small thing.

Immensely enjoyed Karen,thank you for sharing.  :)

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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2019, 07:35:52 AM »
Hi, I really like the slightly dischordant piano chords you have chosen, I don’t know what they are but probably augmented/ suspended somethings... they fit the unsettling nature of the song. I agree nothing else is needed. Quality track.
It's all too beautiful.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2019, 07:57:51 PM »
Haunting & beautiful

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2019, 08:54:25 PM »
Hi,
All I can say is that my modest ears really enjoyed your song. The stripped down side of the whole makes it possible to appreciate the essential depth of the subject. Nothing bothered me in the mix. It's a song that touches with its emotion and subject.
It's quite successful, I'm brutally sincere  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2019, 10:04:20 PM »
Thanks all for listening and the great feedback - I am chuffed entirely. Consensus seems to be that the piano is too loud so I've tweaked it a bit and brought it down.. new version uploaded. Vox sounds a bit loud to me now but I guess I always think that. I'll see how it sits after a few listens.. Thanks again - every comment and listen very much appreciated!

@Inanité_sonore - thank you for your brutal sincerity. You are very kind!

@PaulG - thanks a mill for your lovely comment!

@PaulyX - tbh I'm not sure what I'm playing. Sus chords to start with for sure but I mash a few chords together as well so I haven't tried to work it out.. I rarely write on piano but I do tend to end up with a few odd chords when I do :)! Thanks a mill..

@Skub ah, ever the gentleman. Your words mean a lot and I thank you for them! I tinkered only with levels!

@PaulAds - I've just noticed your sig for the first time this evening - heart of stone eh? The lyrics - yeah it's probably more overt than I intended but obviously not too much.. hard with this sort of song tbh. Understated works for me - not sure I have another delivery mode tbh! Thanks a mill - appreciate your words v much.

@pompeyjazz thanks for your comments here and on SC. As noted on your thread I identified with your lovely song too. Hard theme but I'm drawn back often. Piano up as noted, hopefully enough / not too much :)  Thanks again...

@Neil C - cheery is great! I'm just crap at writing cheery songs :)! I have a couple somewhere I think!

@LostBoy - thanks for that and for taking the time to check a ref track (I SO never do that - I really should!!) I'm hoping my tweak is enough as noted!

@cowparsleyman - thanks so much.. Yep I do have quite a low voice!!

@Sebandme - Thanks a mill.. Much appreciated