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the 4 track song
shadowfax:
Before you listen to this be aware that there is nothing wrong with your gear..wow and flutter and drop outs in biblical proportions are present in this recording,
the Fostex A250 (if I remeber correctly) that I borrowed from a friend of a friend was near to total collapse and the cassette in it was in really bad nick with a few twists here and there.....did this as an experiment...
recorded drums ( Roland TR-8 rhythm performer, borrowed) and bass at the same time to one track, then guitar to 2nd track and vocal to 3rd track then bounced these to 4th track...
then piano, harmonies and some synth to one of the 3 newly available tracks and electric guitar and another vocal and some synth to the other newly available track, the vocal dissappears a bit in the bridge because I couldn't continue the vocal where the electic guitar is..
then bounced these down to the third available track along with the stuff that was bounced to the 4th track at the start of the song. ..added some chop guitar during this bounce..lost a lot of top end in this procedure.
then I bounced the 'finished' track to another track so I can achieve a sort of psuedo stereo which seemed to work quite well..had to brighten one side a bit by running it through my mixing desk and using the eq on it.
brain freeze was a recuring feature during this recording session and had re do things quite a lot due to forgeting where something was and recording over it. I didn't take notes so can't guarantee the procedure is absolutely correct..it's sort of..ball park..
did a bit of mastering to brighten it up a little and made it louder.
will not be doing it again in a hurry!! @Boydie @pompeyjazz @Skub @PaulAds @PaulyX
https://soundcloud.com/knmac/only-in-the-rain-4-track-by-knmac/s-E6OhV
best, Kevin :)
PaulAds:
This is very cool, Kev...it's a brilliant idea...makes you realise how lucky we are to have all the gear that's available nowadays...though hearing this makes me pine a little for the simplicity of yesterday...
I've done quite a few songs over the years that only had 4 tracks to them anyway...guitar,bass,dums and a vocal. I still like to keep things to a minimum really...I'm revisiting a load of my old songs with just an acoustic guitar and one vocal for an album... It's a great exercise...to strip them back to the essence of what they were all about in the first place. Quite a few have fallen by the wayside, but some have taken on a life of their own.
Anyway...You have the most important ingredient here...which is...a great song that's really worth recording.
Bravo!
Suitably impressed and inspired...i intend to get back to basics in the near future!
I'd like to do a cover version of this, when I get a minute...just using four tracks...would you mind?
pompeyjazz:
This is brilliant Kev. It's like finding an old tape at the back of the drawer labled "Demos 1982" I really admire your perseverance and skill getting this together and love the analogue warmth which is now often lost. Like Paul says, it's quite amazing what we all can achieve with technology these days but the problem often lies with having too many toys in the box and playing with them all at the same time. I'm very guilty of that. I'm aiming to get a bit more stripped down in arrangements. The main thing here is this is a fabulous song :) Brilliant memories of when we borrowed a TEAC 4 track for a weekend, padded the windows with my mates parents mattress while they were away on holiday, laughed, smoked, drank, sung, and produced a single tape that got lost. Frigging excellent work Kev, I love it, and you've got B7 in there so I love it even more
shadowfax:
--- Quote from: PaulAds on May 20, 2019, 08:40:29 PM ---This is very cool, Kev...it's a brilliant idea...makes you realise how lucky we are to have all the gear that's available nowadays...though hearing this makes me pine a little for the simplicity of yesterday...
I've done quite a few songs over the years that only had 4 tracks to them anyway...guitar,bass,dums and a vocal. I still like to keep things to a minimum really...I'm revisiting a load of my old songs with just an acoustic guitar and one vocal for an album... It's a great exercise...to strip them back to the essence of what they were all about in the first place. Quite a few have fallen by the wayside, but some have taken on a life of their own.
Anyway...You have the most important ingredient here...which is...a great song that's really worth recording.
Bravo!
Suitably impressed and inspired...i intend to get back to basics in the near future!
I'd like to do a cover version of this, when I get a minute...just using four tracks...would you mind?
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Hi Paul, the simplicity of yesterday only exists if you only use 4 instruments on 4 tracks..otherwise it's really hard work..LOL
no problem if you wanna cover the song mate..no problem at all..surprised you like this song given the sloppy lyrics Paul..
@PaulAds
shadowfax:
--- Quote from: pompeyjazz on May 20, 2019, 09:52:50 PM ---This is brilliant Kev. It's like finding an old tape at the back of the drawer labled "Demos 1982" I really admire your perseverance and skill getting this together and love the analogue warmth which is now often lost. Like Paul says, it's quite amazing what we all can achieve with technology these days but the problem often lies with having too many toys in the box and playing with them all at the same time. I'm very guilty of that. I'm aiming to get a bit more stripped down in arrangements. The main thing here is this is a fabulous song :) Brilliant memories of when we borrowed a TEAC 4 track for a weekend, padded the windows with my mates parents mattress while they were away on holiday, laughed, smoked, drank, sung, and produced a single tape that got lost. Frigging excellent work Kev, I love it, and you've got B7 in there so I love it even more
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thanks John, Was originally gonna use a Teac 4 track, bought it on Ebay but the damn thing didn't work and a friend of a friend had a Fostex thing, (wish I'd known this before spending money on Ebay) the wow and flutter thing is a big problem though and a chewed up tape is an even bigger one...great being in music at the mo, if you wanna keep it simple you can..if you wanna use a million tracks, you can..
B7 ..yeah, a great chord...you must have good ears mate, I can never tell what chords peeps are using..can't even figure my own out on some old songs.
@pompeyjazz
best, Kevin
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