NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!

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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2018, 05:06:27 PM »
At the suggestion of @adamfarr I'm going to have a go!

Using it for an alternative, punky version of a song I have just recorded, which I've had to slow down (!) to get to 169bpm. Bass and guitars done, just the vocals to go - great fun!!

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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2018, 05:40:56 PM »
Great to see you're going to give it a go Dave.

Take it easy.

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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2018, 07:04:31 PM »
I'm having a whole bunch of fun with this!

Most issues have been getting Ampire to make the guitar sound like a shy, hormonal and frustrated teen.

Also an effect question to everyone: Can you use a limiter after reverb efficiently without it jumping up and down gating the after trail of the reverb? 

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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2018, 08:48:46 PM »
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Also an effect question to everyone: Can you use a limiter after reverb efficiently without it jumping up and down gating the after trail of the reverb?

@Martinswede

What effect are you after?

If you are using the limiter as a hard compressor then the limiter will most likely not be active on reverb tails (i.e. You will likely only need to set it to catch the peaks and high volume parts allowing you to turn everything up without clipping)

What are you trying to achieve with the limiter?
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2018, 09:34:30 AM »
Thank you for your reply @Boydie !

I use the limiter to get rid of the highest peaks so it's easier to get a volume that matches the other tracks.
After reading what you wrote I think my problem might be a too high input gain. It might be better to increase the volume after the limiter and not before... or?

The problem first occurred when I mixed vocals that changed a lot in volume.  There were both super high peaks and high peaks and I tried to fix it all at the same time. Retakes might seem like the best way to make things better but it was not an option.

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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2018, 10:02:51 AM »
Martin - if for vocals, not sure a limiter is your best option - I think certainly compression and then maybe volume automation, but limiting sounds very drastic... (though if anything it might lift up the reverb tails? I would probably compress before reverb anyway...). Depends on a lot of things of course and how it sounds to you...


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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2018, 04:31:52 PM »
Hi @adamfarr !

Thank you for your advice!

The whole question was kind of a sidetrack and I don't think I will work with similar tracks in the future but it was also the first time I really had to work with highly varying volume levels. When I finally managed to get the vocals kind of even I added reverb and all kinds of things happened.

Anyway. This time I can do more retakes and I've also figure out how to add input compression and eq so I'm a little bit more prepared.

Also I listened to the Limiting episode of the Ian Shepard show. Outside of my understanding at times but mostly helpful.

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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2018, 06:10:58 PM »
@Martinswede

I think using volume automation and compression is your best bet in this situation

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I've also figure out how to add input compression and eq so I'm a little bit more prepared.

I would personally advise against this - a more flexible approach would be to record at a lower level and then apply EQ and compression AFTER recording, which will give you more options when mixing

If you mess up the EQ and/or compression whilst recording (or simply change your mind at a later point) then your recording may affected by the EQ & compression

You may find it better to record "dry" and then apply fx after - or if your PC/Mac has the juice you can add these insert effects and hear them whilst recording (assuming you are still able to keep the latency low enough so you don't hear a delay when recording)

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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2018, 06:20:36 PM »
Thanks again Boydie!

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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2018, 06:08:42 PM »
So, two weeks to go - how is everyone doing with their entries? All tapping your fingers thinking, come on end of May, release the dogs?! Hope everyone has had as much fun as I did. I was mightily relieved that my neighbours were away when I recorded this - but not as relieved as they were!

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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2018, 06:26:43 PM »
Great news, Bill!

I've hardly done a thing...I really need to get something cooking pretty quickly  :o

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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2018, 07:15:12 PM »
Music track recorded and just finished the lyric, which are hardly Shakespeare but will hopefully record vocals soon  ;D
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« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2018, 07:59:51 PM »
Song sorted and if today was May 31st I'd have something to post....but want to rerecord everything....in the pursuit of perfection....or at least something better.....not better than perfection you understand.
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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2018, 08:30:08 PM »
Can't speak for Darren but I am very excited, our entry is coming along nicely :)

Look forward.to hearing and reviewing all the entries - avoided any previews (and the origiinal) like the plague not to be led in a particular direction!

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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2018, 08:32:03 PM »
Only just started recording. An overly ambitious track which breaks all the rules  ;D  Not sure I'm gonna have enough time though..... :o