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Read December 04, 2017, 03:55:22 PM #0
Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra

Ain't That Enough

Apologies for not being on here lately. This is my excuse.

I've not been able to get on the PC without spending all my time on the song.

I've had bits of it for ages including the title/hook so been building round that. The lyric is just a load of nonsense really to support the title/hook.

Not mixed properly yet and may be a bit 'hot'. Also a bit of pasted in vocal cos I couldn't be bothered to redo that yet.

Any thoughts?

https://soundcloud.com/cramer1930/aintthatenoughdemo1/s-ZHidR


Take it easy.

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Read December 05, 2017, 05:25:09 PM #1
PaulAds

Re: Ain't That Enough

I had a quick listen yesterday...I think it's shaping up to be a great song...hope to get a closer listen soon...but just wanted to let you know that I really like it!


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Read December 06, 2017, 01:03:19 PM #2
2tuoo

Re: Ain't That Enough

I like this style a lot!

Feels like something they play in movies!


Have a great day!
 
Read December 07, 2017, 06:21:46 AM #3
Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra

Re: Ain't That Enough

Thanks you two. In the movies I'm a-gonna be!

If anyone listening wants to offer specific help...I didn't specify, I should have done.....

a) Are sounds/instrument choices ok...flute giving way to sax for example. Horns? I didn't really want horns but any orchestral alternative I tried was a failure but now I'm happy with horns in it.

b) After the sax break it goes into a part that's come before but I chopped it to spare the listener, get to the next chorus quicker and generally make the song shorter. Is that the right choice or should I go with the whole part? I pasted in a bit of vocal I already had as an idea to set up the chorus.....it isn't right cos it lands on the wrong note at the moment but will work I think. Do you think so?

c) What does it suggest style-wise to you? I'm in the general soul area hopefully...I only listened to one song in the last month or so and that was once....by Jamiroquai...don't quite know why, can't recall the title, don't know him that well, always reminded me vocally of Stevie Wonder. It isn't like that song...just wanted to hear what instruments were being used...bass, electric piano, real drums, not a lot else! The vocal was very important which I think it is here (shame it's only me singing then though I did try hard!)
It isn't really very funk but the drum loop is a FunkDrops loop which seems to work.....should I be looking elsewhere...I've tried loads of alternatives.

Just discovered that I first recorded a sketchy idea for this in October 2015...it was 10bpm slower then and just the very first bit....don't work very fast do I? Nothing was coming to me then though and I didn't want to force it.

Big ask isn't it?


Take it easy.

You can check my stuff out here. Mini-album getting bigger slowly. Free download if you're poor.

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Read December 07, 2017, 11:08:30 PM #4
pompeyjazz

Re: Ain't That Enough

Hey Ian, I'm absolutely loving this. Maybe I could offer some ever so subtle backing vocals?  Pm me if you're into it  Smiley
 
Read December 08, 2017, 12:53:09 PM #5
PaulAds

Re: Ain't That Enough

Hi VC

I had a couple more listens...I like it even more now!

The horns are really good...I think that part is one of the highlights of the song, so they go brilliant there.

I think johns call about some backing vocals is a very good one...I love using an overlapping vocal, but I think an additional voice would be better to add in to the mix on those parts...otherwise it breaks the spell of one person talking to another perhaps?

I think your vocal is very very good in parts...possibly when it’s more confident? If some bits were recorded earlier, that might explain it...but you really nail it in parts...so I’d use the next 18 months ( Cheesy) to get the rest of the vocal sounding just as excellent.

I would maybe strip the second half of the flute part back, if it were me...first phrase was nice but I though it was a tiny bit much, perhaps.

Feel-wise...quite a soul feel to it but pretty funky too...I have no idea how to describe it.

 Put me in mind somewhat of Aztec Camera’s “love” Album “deep and wide and tall” kind of thing. That’s a lovely song and a great album.

Keep at it...it’s a gem!


heart of stone, feet of clay, knob of butter
 
Read December 08, 2017, 06:50:00 PM #6
Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra

Re: Ain't That Enough

Thanks a million Paul.

Damn nice of you to take the time to listen and comment at such length.

I'm in touch with PJ....yes of course, an overlaid backing vocal should be a different voice for 'live' 'real' authentic etc

The vocal takes were all from the same session but some bits just seem to suit me better. My range is very poor anyway and it seems my 'good' range is even smaller. I tried this a tone lower for fear of not being able to get the high bits, and the good bits.....I think I know where I am getting a good bit....were not so good!

The end section was instructive. I had to really get out of myself to reach that different level there. I only ever record vocals when my wife is not at home. There were some painfully horrible noises coming out that day.

Yeah, I reckon the 'funk' drum loop works....I love the DrumDrops stuff and you can buy individual loops for a few quid.

I'll check out the Aztec Camera song....

Thanks for taking the time and for the encouraging words. I'm in love with this at the moment so it's nice to know that my love may not be totally misguided!


Take it easy.

You can check my stuff out here. Mini-album getting bigger slowly. Free download if you're poor.

Easy Life - Viscount Cramer
 
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