Give me some COVER!

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Martinswede

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« on: June 15, 2017, 12:00:25 PM »
Hi all you 4k+ guys and gals!

I had this idea...

Why not do a cover month? Say August or September. I'm not saying eat a bowl of
habanero salsa and sing 'Life on Mars' I'm saying covering each others songs.

My thought is that you either re-post a song that was posted longer than a year ago
or you post a new song saying it is a part of the Cover Month. This gives ALL members
the opportunity to do a cover of your song. Of course you can also ask a member to
be allowed to cover any of their songs as I guess some already do.

The point of this is that:
Some/most here are great performers and singers but since we can not post covers of
other peoples work without permission covers are (almost) impossible to post.

Also you can be a great performer but writing isn't your strong side. Posting a cover
can be a great way to get input on your interpretation.

This is of course opening the door to mayhem. What if a hundred people, like
me, wants to do a cover of PaulAds 'Stand Down'? The only solution I see is to make separate
space for it in the forum. So it tuns into an administration issue I guess.

Maybe this has been done before and all went to a very hot and fiery place.
But a bad idea isn't stupid until it has been tried and failed twice, right?

Martin

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 01:45:30 PM »
I really like this idea Martin

Lets have a bit of discussion in this thread and then work out the best way of making it happen

Here are my thoughts:

How about only longs more than 3 months old can be covered

We have a single thread (perhaps a sticky in its own forum area) where members can post a list of links to the songs they are offering up to be covered

If someone wants to cover it they PM the original writer for permission and the original writer has to send a Chord/lyric sheet

Cover songs can then be posted for review/comment in this new forum area

Thoughts?
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 02:18:23 PM »
Great idea, Martin

I'd like to cover some songs...and am happy to have anyone else cover anything I've written  :)

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 04:28:12 PM »
Yep it's a great idea, be really interesting to hear how people reinterpret different songs.
I don't see a problem if we had 100 covers of "Stand Down" for example - would be fascinating to hear how the versions differ.
I also don't see why we need to post of list of songs 'offered' for covering... couldn't members just cover ANY song they remember that they liked from the boards, and just reach out to the song writer in advance to ask permission to cover it?
Cool idea Martin.
It's all too beautiful.

Neil C

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 05:25:11 PM »
Hi I thinks it's a good idea. Perhaps we could have it as our next competition in Sept.
I'd love to cover someone's tune, they'd need to give permission as you say and be even more delighted if someone wanted to cover mine.
The real question is their sufficient interest from the forum?
Only one way to find out...
:-)
Neil
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 05:44:58 PM »
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I also don't see why we need to post of list of songs 'offered' for covering... couldn't members just cover ANY song they remember that they liked from the boards

I would just like to see a delay of at least 3 months so I think it would be better to build up a single library of songs in a single place that are "pre-approved" to be covered

There are many songs buried deep in the forum that would never be found so I just think it would help manage the process if each member offered up 3-5 songs

There is nothing stopping anyone asking anyone to cover any song but I am just thinking of ways to have a manageable process
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 07:43:56 PM »
Hi!

This idea of a library sounds good but it would have it's downside.
Say I'd like to cover song X by Y. Either I send Y a pm or I wait for
Y to add song X to the library thread. Why wait when I can pm?
What if X by Y is very popular and Y gets many pm:s about it but
Y doesn't want people to over X? Pm:s all over the place.

And also lets say this thing gets popular. Maybe 200+ songs are added
to 'the library'. It will be very hard to find your way among all the songs.
In the best scenario it might turn into a Alice in Wonderland thing,
that if you not know where your going, how can you then tell if your
going the wrong way?

On the other hand. If you don't have to write the song, maybe spending
45 minutes to find it is not that much to be asked for.

So, spend 5 minutes every Monday thinking about this and we'll get
to work July 31st!

Martin

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 08:12:11 PM »
I'd be up for this, time permitting.

This could be a boost to some people if someone with more exposure covers their song and may also aid people in gaining PRO membership if they want/need it.

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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 08:14:51 PM »
If the library is comprised of posts by members listing their pre-approved songs, I think it could be fairly manageable, especially if each member is limited to ONE post. Each person can edit their one post whenever they want to update their list of pre-approved songs. And they would include links to sound files of the songs, right?
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2017, 01:41:52 PM »
Funnily enough,this idea of Martin's also crossed my mind. It could be interesting.
Would Boydie need to get the spanners out to create a new sub section dedicated to covers? It would be handy if the idea had it's own little corner,especially if the notion takes off.

Boydie

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2017, 02:03:35 PM »
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This idea of a library sounds good but it would have it's downside.
Say I'd like to cover song X by Y. Either I send Y a pm or I wait for
Y to add song X to the library thread. Why wait when I can pm?
What if X by Y is very popular and Y gets many pm:s about it but
Y doesn't want people to over X? Pm:s all over the place.

But wouldn't a library of pre-approved tracks make it much easier and reduce PMs all over the place

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And also lets say this thing gets popular. Maybe 200+ songs are added
to 'the library'. It will be very hard to find your way among all the songs.

To make things manageable each member would have a maximum number of songs they could list as "pre-approved and available to cover"

However, there would always be the option to contact anyone directly and ask to do a cover

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Would Boydie need to get the spanners out to create a new sub section dedicated to covers?

I would try  ;D

I could see it working as a new forum area - eg underneath the WORK IN PROGRESS area

There could then be a sticky post listing the "rules" and then a list of the songs offered up for covering by the members

eg members would post their song list with links to their songs - a mod would then copy these in to the first post and delete the members post to keep everything in one message

I think the easiest way would be to try it and see what happens

I will have a look at the options available
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2017, 07:52:01 PM »
We must be on the same wavelength, as I had the same thought when listening through so many member tracks on SoundCloud recently. There are so many good songwriters and artists here. I'd love to hear a mixup of covers done and think it would be great fun.

Martinswede

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2017, 08:46:01 PM »
Thanks Boydie for your understanding of what web pages can do and how
to make computers work for you!
(I can't even type in a civilized fashion. The only upside is that if I broke an
arm I wouldn't type that much slower).

Yes it's not the strangest idea in this context. I can only assume
that you will be participating in your fullest potential!

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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2017, 03:42:42 AM »
Ha! I hope you're not referring to me! Participating to my fullest potential would be some yackety yack in the feedback section. :P Of course, I do like to toy around with the rhythm feature on my DAW, so there's that.

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2017, 08:45:41 AM »
Before I get the spanners out I just want to clarify one thing...

We are wanting to limit this new forum area to covers of other member's songs only?

I.e. Not covering classic, released, songs - which could open a can of worms from a copyright point of view as I would not want the forum to be seen to be promoting covering songs without the relevant permissions etc.
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