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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2017, 05:35:16 PM »
That was a worthwhile exercise then - perhaps mixing with an artificially boosted low end will compensate for the room and help your mixes translate well

Some strategic acoustic treatment would be the best bet - and it is great you have a reference to refer to now

Another option is to use some room correction software/hardware

I have heard good things about ARC 2

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2017, 05:47:51 PM »
the room i'm in is smallish, probably 11'x14'

i have my monitors at head height, 6' from me, angled in pointing at the sides of my head.  the results of the test make me wonder what is happening to the bass. i clearly do not understand acoustics.

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2017, 07:24:51 PM »
On this subject,

I have just added some treatment to my room, took some measurements using REW (loads of vids on youtube) and I found I had a lot of boost around 250-300hz, actually from my room.

I am monitoring on a set of KRK rokit 8 and a set of rolands Ma 150U, with a bit of corrective EQ i now use this EQ on my mastering and mixing bus when finalising.

Surprising how a lot of bass can sound great but when put on CD and played in your car, BOOOM, a lot of bass is present.

They say trust your ears.......they lie a lot sometimes.

Anyway, just my two pennys worth,

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2017, 05:53:22 PM »
hi skub

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones-x/dp/B0042A8CW2/ref=sr_1_54?s=electronics-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1490631332&sr=1-54

blooming long link but hopefully should introduce you to my choice of headphones

the missus presented me with these as birthday prissy couple of years back and they were a revalation..
they suit my listening taste i suppose and more importantly have given me confidence when mixing..
other fairly decent headphones use to give me 'ear burn' or tired ears after a while, could be harsh but these don't..
i suffer from tinnitus and lost quite a lot of top off my hearing..years of bashing a drumkit and bad headphones when i began writing at home..but these have great clarity and definition and i believe allow me to compensate to a certain extent.. nice bass response too
anyway don't want to deafen you with science..
they're just great headphones, for me anyway
plus they've got velvet cuffs and keep the ears lovely and warm.

i may not believe this tomorrow...

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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2017, 08:18:39 PM »
Fine looking cans nooms,it's a great pity we can't road test a selection of headphones before buying. The choice is so broad and the reports so inconsistent,it's hard to judge. I've sort of resigned myself to using my current headphones for the time being,mostly because it's sometimes better the devil you know!

Ta for the thought.  :)

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2017, 08:37:07 PM »
If the songs you've been posting are anything to go by you don't need to worry about anything.. :) :)
yer doin fine mate!! :) :)
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2017, 09:33:54 PM »
Ta Kev. You know what it's like,we all think we are missing that definitive piece of gear that will bring about a major step up in quality!  :D

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2017, 01:36:47 PM »

@ MIKEK
It would an interesting exercise to do a "frequency sweep" of your room to see how it affects what you hear

You can get the files from here - they will sweep through the frequencies and a "perfect room" will have a consistent volume of sound throughout the range. If you notice the sound gets louder or quieter you will be able to identify the frequency ranges that are adversely affecting what you here in your room

http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_sinesweep20-20k.php 

I have been in really bad rooms that have a dramatic affect on the mix as it is heard in that room

i went ahead and got my recording machine all patched and internet safe so i could tinker with this sinesweep test.  what i found is that the extremely low band is noticeably quiet, and as the sweep increases to the mid-frequencies, so does the volume.  things are fairly consistent throughout to the highest frequencies where the volume starts to taper off quite a bit.  part of the high taper could be quite literally, my failing hearing.

Careful drawing conclusions from this as you will also be recording the response of your mic and preamp.
Most condenser mics have 'bump' somewhere from 2-8Khz. Most preamps and many mics will tail off significantly in the low end and high end. Plus the human ears' response is wild: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour

SPL meters are usually used for measuring the freq. response of a room at different listening positions.

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2017, 09:25:52 PM »
Took me a while but I finally got around to getting me some KRK KNS 8400s on Boydie's recommendation. Man they're beautiful! Like having my studio speakers strapped to my head. Finally I can mix without wakin up half the neighbourhood.
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2017, 11:14:54 PM »
They are great aren't they - and soooooooooooo comfortable as well

I was just thinking the other day that if they ever broke I wouldn't hesitate getting another pair - I am even considering getting a spare set just in case!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2017, 01:15:52 AM »
They are great aren't they - and soooooooooooo comfortable as well

Yep! love them. just been led in the dark with them for hours. Not in a weird way... I was listening to music...
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2017, 05:36:11 PM »
Yep - Just giving my KRK's a first listen - A new dimension  :)

Thanks Boydie and Jack  :)