I'm sorry but this thread is really starting to annoy me. In my original post I said:
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This put me in mind of those occasions where, for reasons of rhyme or scansion, a lyricist has accidentally turned grammatical English into nonsense.
(my emphasis)
And that's all I said. I said nothing about occasions where lyricists use deliberately colloquial language in order to make a statement. That's fine.
The only person who really seems to have got my point is Viscount Cramer (although I think delb0y and adamfarr understood where I was coming from, and maybe diademgrove as well). It's about sticking random words in lyrics (or leaving them out) to make them scan or rhyme properly.
Maybe I shouldn't have called the thread "Ungrammatical lyrics". I should have called it "Badly structured lyrics", or something.
Am I being too subtle?
I think it is a little unfair to provoke a discussion and then state that you are getting "annoyed" and almost "attack" people for not "getting it"
The whole point of a discussion is that it "wanders" and as long as it doesn't go completely "off topic", which I don't think it ever did - it is not like everyone started talking about sausages (hmmm - sausages!)
If you want to get the discussion to focus more on your intended area then a post along the lines of "great discussion guys, what I really wanted to get in to was..."
I am not sure telling members they don't "get it" is very constructive
I appreciate the written word is not the easiest medium to have this type of discussion but there comes a point where if it is the same people that seems to raise people's hackles then I think they need to review their writing style, how they put their points across or whether this is really a suitable place for them
I like to promote "discussion" on this forum and that means listening (reading) lots of different points of views - by all means respond, disagree, provoke HEALTHY and CONSTRUCTIVE discussion
What I will not accept is posts that seem to provoke a negative discussion and the post quoted above IMHO does this
By stating you are "annoyed" and only a few people "get it" is just asking for people to attack you back - if only to defend themselves - are you calling them "stupid" for not "getting it"?
This is not the first time your posts have done this so please think about how your posts will be received before hitting the submit button
I completely appreciate you have not caused great offence, or really offended anyone, but I want to prevent this escalating as I can foresee how this thread (and future threads) could potentially unfold
If you get annoyed at this type of discussion then please consider the value of posting this fact and whether you should provoke this kind of discussion in the first place
I would ask that other members of the forum do not "react" to the comments in a negative way
I could very well be completely over-reacting to your comments but I am sure you can appreciate I am very protective of this forum and the wonderful members here that have been having discussions for many years (often heated) but normally constructive