Instrumental Breaks

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« on: March 21, 2013, 12:23:04 AM »
Hi,

I wondered what the consensus was among forum members about instrumental breaks in song arrangements. Specifically, is it acceptable to use an instrument for a break and then not feature it elsewhere in the song. I've always tried to introduce the lead instrument a few bars before the break and then feature it intermittently for the rest of the track. Do you agree with this or is it OK for the lead to only feature on one instrumental break and not elsewhere?

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Alan

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 01:08:25 AM »
I consider it to be perfectly fine, if used correctly. There are many great examples. Lets take the Fab Four.

"In my life" is a stunning piece of writing, lyrically, melodically and chord structure...ly  ::)

And, in the middle there is the lovely double time "fake harpsichord" solo, created by recording a piano at half speed and then doubling the tape speed. This sound is both ONLY heard in the break, and an odd sound in general.

The ear loves it. It is a fresh sound, and, a BREAK! Geddit?

Now, of course, you have to avoid gimmickry for it's own sake. But, I have never worried about a sound ONLY appearing in the break in an arrangement and have used it myself.

On "Stay in Touch" I bring a piano in during the break, nowhere else. In my conspiracy comp entry "Disposable" in cometh an electric guitar solo.

The arrangement you speak of, and the method of keeping it "in" thereafter is somewhat aligned with live performance. Of course, having a harpsichord player on stage for four bars of a song would be silly. So they add subtle noodles elsewhere. If they aren't required, if they don't add to the arrangement you are recording, then don't worry! Of course, now with synths/samples on keys, such whimsy is a lot easier to employ!

Lastly, the market, the listener, doesn't think like a musician. They hear music, not arrangements. They don't think like a muso, concerning themselves on the frivolity of a four bar sax that sods off right after. They just enjoy the part played :)
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 07:47:46 AM »
James,

Thank you for your detailed and well illustrated reply. As ever, you are font of useful advice. :)

Alan

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 08:45:15 AM »
I completely understand where you are coming from MONTY

I have also felt "uncomfortable" doing this but never really thought why

I think JN is spot on about the "live performance" thing and I hadn't looked at it this way before, which makes perfect sense, especially as I am more of a "live band" type myself

I have introduced new instruments just for a "break" solo thinking it would sound weird (I did it on a track I worked up for GARNER ages ago that I posted for review) - nobody mentioned it so I think it is absolutely fine (although in all honesty I would probably still subconsciously look to keep the sound somewhere in the remaining track - old habits and all that!!!)
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 05:43:32 PM »
maybe think of it like a train going by in a movie.
it has impact for a brief period, highlights the track and falls away when the vocal reclaims the song.
can be like a blast of fresh air as in JNs Beatles tune, or the door flying open in a blizzard !

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