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Songwriter Forum => Feedback on Finished songs => Topic started by: sweeny500 on February 25, 2021, 10:27:19 PM
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First timer here. Hello! This song uses Yamaha Vocaloid as vocals. No humans involved. We're on the way out ya know. I cannot sing for peanuts so I resorted to electronic voices to see how the song sounds melodically before letting a real human at it (or not). But I just got attached to this one 'as is'. This is about as far away as you can get from 'one-man-and -his-guitar' style so its not everyone's cuppa. Nice to hear comments
https://soundcloud.com/user-685186175/dont-tell-me-now (https://soundcloud.com/user-685186175/dont-tell-me-now)
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Hi there, I’ve never heard synth vocals done like that. Wow, scary! Mind you’ve done very well with the melody and technical mastery of this. A really well layered electro pop backing track.Really interesting stuff.
If you join in on the forum you will get a bit more interest in your own stuff, by the way. Cheers 👍
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Hey Michael, thanks for the feedback. BTW I just downloaded your ebook and....wow, you're a man of many words. I bet you could, and do, write some interesting lyrics. Thanks again
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Hi @sweeny500 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22758) , thanks for downloading the book. Hope you enjoy it, and all the best 👍
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Very nice mix and beautiful voice! I really like the vibe and the synths.
Beautiful and melodic song. Pleasure to listen to.
Maya
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Thanks Maya. Was listening to your 'sugar coated waltz' last night and it is superb. My robots are no match for your voice. HaHa. Keep up the good work.
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@sweeny500 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22758) a really fun piece of robot pop - ace! The vocal works really well so don’t apologise! I’d be tempted to robotify a little more and really make it a feature... Very hooky, love those little synth slide downs... that ‘down to the club, no’ section is great... it makes me think of the gossip mongers pod cast😁... really cool track... as mentioned, make comments on other people’s stuff, it’s a great community on here, I’m pretty new and people give so much if you’re willing to engage👍 Looking forward to hearing more from you
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Thanks @Man Made Material. And there was me trying to humanise the robots. I getya with the gossip mongers. You're right it does. Thanks for all the valuable advise.
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Really interesting use of synth voice: I must check out Yamaha Vocaloid, might work for female backing vocals!
This is a really solid pop song and moves along very nicely with a relaxed vibe. Nice work, even without the robo-vocals, but made all the more interesting by having them in there.
Kevin
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Hi @kevysc (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19775) Thanks for the comments. The the Vocaloid program has a shallow learning curve. Simply draw out your notes, double-click any note to insert word(s). It is great for backing Vocals. It must be easy if I can use it ;D
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Hi and welcome sweeny500 :) This is very catchy melodic song and the robotic vocals are really interesting. Hopefully this is not the way of the future,
but I certainly enjoyed listening to your song. I would definitely like to try this software in a tune or two of mine, as I don't have the best voice either :o
You've done a great job on the backing track, so keep them coming :)
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Clever stuff indeed. It's interesting as a lot of the modern stuff these days has so much vocal processing that it's hard to differentiate between a human and a robot ;D Nicely put together
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@crystalsuzy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18947)
Thanks for the listen and comments. No, I don't think humans are replaceable as vocalists and I hope it doesn't go that way. I tried and tried to sing myself, had lessons (can't remember if tutor or I gave up first). So, I resort to session singers on the net or use Vocaloids (sounds like a medical condition you might get a cream for over the counter ;D).
@pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269)
Yes, a serious amount of processing going on in the modern pop world, even with singers that are really good and don't need it. I tried out one of those 'voice straighteners' to help me sing in tune but I even got that confused :-\. Thanks for the comments
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@sweeny500 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22758)
Catchy piece of electro pop.
Takes a while to acclimatise to the vocals, which somehow give a far eastern feel..
Has the feel of an advert in there somewhere, product placement = £££?
:-)
neil
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I always fancied a try with Vocaloid. It makes this song sound Japanese, not that I mind that. It works really well here though I'm not sure I could handle a whole album of it! It's a clever pop song with a really good arrangement. Not really what I normally listen to but I can't fault this. :)
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Hey - I like this! Clever concept and execution... The track is very well put together and performed...
You make it sound easy - but I bet it wasn't really!
Welcome to the forum!
Karen
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@ChrisPrice (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22723)
Yeah definitely a whole album would be a head wrecker. I don't like sticking to any particular genre when writing. I have written country and western songs, heavy metal, rock, pop and anything that might challenge me. Not saying that any of them were good but it just makes it more interesting. :D
@MonnoDB (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19820)
Thanks for the listen and comments. After a few attempts using Vocaloid, ya soon learn how to tame the beast. Not that hard really. Prefer if I could sing myself but then again I wouldn't be singing that song :D
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Well that was interesting - vocal is great, especially the harmonies (they say that siblings sound best together, probably clones sound even better!)
The song is great too, although I found it a bit hard to catch the lyrics - really poppy and infectious though. My one thought was that the drums perhaps sounded a bit thin in places, and it would be more dancy with some more beef and variation in that department.
Welcome - sounds like you will get lots out of this forum and also have a lot to give. Look forward to hearing more from you!
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Hello @sweeny500 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22758) and welcome to the forum.
It makes me wonder where we are heading. It's quite fascinating to see that this can be done. There's also still a very human element in putting the song together re decisions about musical notes and progressions including the dynamics of the song.
It really does make me wonder what might be achieved and how this will effect the prominence of singer songwriters.
Super clear production here and a really interesting listen.
Paul
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@adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124)
Ah they're not clones, they have their own little personalities, bless em :))
Yeah spot on with the drums, I'm no expert by any means at mixing.
I envy anybody who can get into eq'ing and compression properly. I just hack at it and hope for the best.
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I like that. It's really useful
@Wicked Deeds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19231)
Thanks! I think there will always have to be human input, well for the next 100 yrs maybe, so we're ok for now.
Glad you liked the production. First shot at this electro dance stuff. Not my normal stuff.
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@sweeney500
Hi, never heard of this vocaliser :P, quite an interesting sound, it works well with this synth pop song. The song is good and ticks all the boxes. Well put together and the mix sounds good to me!
Nice one, look forward to see what else you can do 8)
Cheers
Jamie