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Title: A Rolex And A Lighter (Updated)
Post by: Jambrains on August 04, 2020, 01:58:51 PM
Hmmm, Jambrains goes unplugged? Strange times..  8)
This was not planned but during the work with the full production version (coming later, stay tuned  ;D )  I realised that an unplugged version might actually work and since I've only done one (for the bare bones competition years ago) I figured I'd give it a try.
All input welcome, I'm way outside my comfort zon...



2/9: Here is the link to the more produced version, not much added but I think it actually works even better than the 1+1?
https://soundcloud.com/jambrains/a-rolex-and-a-lighter/s-Y8Ct9VSepSa



A Rolex and a lighter
That's all I got to keep
The watch was just a copy
and the lighter it was cheap
The pawnshop had his wedding ring
The bailiff had his Jeep
and I was told that he died peacefully
in his sleep

A Rolex and a lighter
and the shirt upon his back
I looked around but saw
that there was nothing more to pack
He'll travel light to heaven
I'm not sure they'll let him in
But if they send him off to hell
at least it's somewhere
he has been

Let me sit by him in silence
The way we used to do
Let me go to secret places
Only my father and I knew
Let me sit by him in silence
To clear the fog out of my head
and try to face the fact
that he is dead

A Rolex and a lighter
the two things he did not sell
The watch a fake, the lighter cheap
He knew that very well
I bought them for his birthday
when I was still a kid
I worked the docks that summer
And I saved up
every quid

Let me sit by him in silence
The way we used to do
Let me go to secret places
Only my father and I knew
Let me sit by him in silence
To clear the fog out of my head
and try to face the fact
that he is dead

We began to drift apart
the year my mother passed away
She’d held them both together
His grief led him astray
I lost him to the bottle
To the whiskey in the jar
I tried to pull him back
But he’d
gone too far

A Rolex and a lighter
that I bought at Joe's Bazaar
Because he was my hero
My childhood superstar
Taught me how to ride a bike
And let me drive his car
He raised me and my brothers
To believe in
who we are

Let me sit by him in silence
The way we used to do
Let me go to secret places
Only my father and I knew
Let me sit by him in silence
To clear the fog out of my head
and try to face the fact
that he is dead
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: cowparsleyman on August 04, 2020, 05:01:26 PM
@jambrains goodness this is excellent...lots of space and passion, i can feel it in every strum, matched with your vocal delivery.

Forget the fuller production....My favourite since I can change
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: pompeyjazz on August 05, 2020, 03:17:03 PM
Fabulous stuff Mr @Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875) As Rich says, loads of space. Those distinctive vocals and lovely acoustic guitar tone. Juts perfect as it is :)
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: kevysc on August 06, 2020, 03:03:29 PM
The lyrics are truly fantastic, they really tell the story succinctly and without sentimentality, great job.

Also, agree that this works really well as an acoustic piece and it might lose some of the impact with a fuller production.

Top class ( and right up there with your  Shane McGowan song, still a favorite of mine!)

Kevin
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Grubstar on August 06, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
Hi @Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875)
Great acoustic playing, fabulous vocal delivery and a very sad personal lyric all wrapped up in a spacious pristine production, I liked it very much.
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: PeteS on August 06, 2020, 07:12:24 PM
Loved it!  The acoustic recording was perfect, the chords rang through so cleanly, and such a story.   

I'm with CPM, a full version is simply not needed, how could you improve it?
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: moraamarolaloba on August 07, 2020, 01:52:02 PM
Wonderful description, this line has impressed me
But if they send him off to hell
at least it's somewhere

It says so many things.

And I love the chorus, it's catchy and goes well in the ear
It's curious, such a deep song wrapped in a candy paper @Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875)
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Wicked Deeds on August 07, 2020, 04:12:24 PM
@Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875),  a  cool acoustic sound.  Please share the secret of how you recorded it.  This one has real movement. What I mean is the acoustic and rhythm bring the song to life.  It's instantly catchy too.  Well done with the writing and recording.

Paul
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: hardtwistmusic on August 07, 2020, 09:49:37 PM
WOW.....  This pushes every button.  The emotional button is especially "pushed", but the intellectual, and artistic buttons are no less in play.  Not much more to say than "WOW."   

I presume this is particularly personal for you, and if it is, I'm sorry for your loss. 
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Jambrains on August 11, 2020, 09:23:38 PM
@cowparsleyman (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21308): Wow, thanks pal! Amazing someone still remember I Can Change!!  :)

@pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269): thanks, you are too kind!  :)

@kevysc (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19775): thanks a mill! Think I'll do the full production nevertheless, why have one when you can have two?  8)

@Grubstar (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22532): thank you for the kind words  :)

@PeteS (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22588): thanks!!!

@moraamarolaloba (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21233): thanks you. "a deep song wrapped in a candy paper" is a fantastic way to describe it!

@Wicked Deeds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19231): thanks!

@hardtwistmusic (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19215): thanks my friend. No worries, the whole thing is just a work of fiction.


Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Unclenny on August 12, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
Nice to hear you unplugged @Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875) . I have to say, though, that the acoustic guitar tone feels a bit brittle to my ears. Great playing, wonderfully rich vocals and a story that resonates.

I agree with @kevysc (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19775) .... my favorite of yours is still The Curse of Shane McGowan.
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: PaulAds on August 12, 2020, 08:39:01 PM
Suits you down to the ground, I'd say...doesn't really need anything else.

Great lyric and super chord work...I love the way you left it hanging there too...very cool!
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Neil C on August 14, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
Neat title,
Unplugged, why not? 
The format makes you listen to the story more than normally, and there's a story here.
Guitar sounds great.
And lots to like here.
Any more planned in this format?
:-)
neil
   
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Kafla on August 14, 2020, 06:15:44 PM
Holy sh!t this is good 🤣

The verses really support the chorus which is off the radar melodic and catchy - great lyrics too.

I tip my hat Sir 🤗
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Jamie on August 16, 2020, 05:04:43 PM
@Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875)

Hi, keep it as it is.... love the 'air' in the production and the acoustic guitar sound.Very good sir!


Cheers

Jamie
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Paulski on August 16, 2020, 09:23:15 PM
@Jambrains (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19875) what a great song. Expertly delivered with that classic vocal and sparkling acoustic guitar.
Great storyline too - fiction or not you made me believe and feel for this guy.

More in this vein please!
Paul
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: montydog on August 19, 2020, 11:37:51 AM
Err...wow! What a brilliant song - truly unbelievable lyrical quality - Dylan would be proud of this. The acoustic unplugged feel is perfect for the song. Only every once in a while does something truly brilliant come onto the forum and this is one of those times. If I had written this, I would probably never feel the need to write anything else. What more can I say.
M
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: adamfarr on August 25, 2020, 11:40:31 AM
Fantastic song concept and fabulous delivery and recording.

I think I might have tried something other than "he is dead" in the chorus as this is already clear from verse one. But that may be me being too songwritery (again).

Great story - communication and time passing, does anyone ever get it quite right.
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter
Post by: Jambrains on September 02, 2020, 08:35:52 PM
@Unclenny (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22611): thanks! Yes, you are absolutely right, I went a little overboard with the guitar "glitter" :-)

@PaulAds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20253): thanks a mill, much appreciated!

@Neil C (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18856): thanks! No plans for another one in this style but who knows?

@Kafla (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=6905): thank you good Sir! :-)

@Jamie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19125): I'm running out of ways too say thanks you in English so a good old Swedish "tack!" will have to do  ;D

@Paulski (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19241): thanks you, you are too kind. No plans for another one but who knows, maybe in the future?

@montydog (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18653): I can't tell you how happy I am that you joined in and that you liked it so much. After all you are the master of this kind of songs. Chuffed....

@adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124): thanks! I see what you mean re "dead" but I doubt I will actually go back and change anything.

@all: I have updated the original post with a link to the more produced version, not that much added but I do think what I added actually improved it. Or not?
Title: Re: A Rolex And A Lighter (Updated)
Post by: Unclenny on September 02, 2020, 09:00:55 PM
I like this mix a lot. The piano is a perfect addition but there are a few brief places (in the chorus) where it felt like it creates a bit of dissonance with the guitar.

This is a great tune.