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Title: Daylight Robbery
Post by: LostBoy on July 29, 2020, 03:07:15 PM
Hi everyone,

I wanted to write a vintage/Motownish/soul ballad....I failed cos Its 4mins long!🤦🏼‍♂️ but hopefully it feels right?

I really wrestled with the mix on this as I wanted to make it sound a little rough around the edges with saturation, but man does that stuff make your mix sound harsh and brittle...sigh...so this is where I've landed for now. I hope you like it? Lyrics ok? Melody? Vocal volume? Is that triangle a touch too loud?? All thoughts are welcome and thanks. 😁👍🏻

https://soundcloud.com/leo-b-5/daylight-robbery?ref=clipboard

Daylight Robbery.

Seven months gone
Still I cant move on
When I always see you around
Hearts in my mouth
Try to be strong but I'm choking on doubt
Maybe you'll see what you've done
And bring your lovin' back home

Nobody's perfect baby
But I gave you everything I've got
and it just hurts me so bad
Seeing you holding his hand

He stole your heart
It was daylight robbery
Now I'm in the dark
And it's cold with you gone
He stole your heart
It was daylight robbery
I cant go on
You were my sunlight

Others have tried
To light up the nights
But their love just doesnt come close
You are the one
Every memory feels like I'm home
Nobody else can compare
And none ever will...no darlin

Friends say I'm crazy lately
But I miss you more than words can say
And in my heart I believe
No one can love you like me.



Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: Melusine2 on July 29, 2020, 06:00:17 PM
sweet and delightfull, i enjoyed listening^^ !
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: Unclenny on July 29, 2020, 07:12:21 PM
Really fine tune here @LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481) with a fantastic classic feel. I love the vocal arrangements!

If I'm picking at nits I'd look at the volume relationship between the lead vocal and the snare......the snare feels a bit louder to me.

What a great listen this one is!
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: shadowfax on July 29, 2020, 07:20:39 PM
Totally cracked it mate..Faultless in my book..great singing. 8)
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: MonnoDB on July 29, 2020, 07:50:40 PM
Hey Leo @LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481) .. this is smoooooooooth!!!  And sweet.. Vocal is (as always) gorgeous.. Lovely lyric (I'm just finished a song with "I've given all I've got" in it - I swear I didn't steal it :) :) ).. You certainly fulfilled your brief - it ticks those boxes.. Doesn't feel too long either at 4 mins..

Great playing too - who's that on the keys?

I would bring the vocal up a little too.. And that keyboard quick fire at .36, 1.55 etc I think sounds a little unnatural, I think I'd edit that.. but just a personal thing I'm sure..

Wonderful stuff!

K
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: pompeyjazz on July 30, 2020, 08:14:29 AM
Hi Leo @LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481) This is indeed a piece of top quality. Your vocals as ever are top, top quality and those bv's are tight, tight, tight. I love the little stops and starts that you use. Smooth as silk - Fabulous song  :)
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: bigFishAndTheSmallPondets on July 30, 2020, 08:49:32 AM
A lovely, nostalgic number. You can really hear the emotional heartache in it.

The production, to me, captures the raw honesty of a classic Southern soul band. However, I also feel there are some very classy elements to it. Everything sounds very neat, which is good given the richness of the sound with guitars, keyboards, brass section and vocal harmonies all coming together in unison.

Great therapy for rejection blues! Very uplifting in the way it confronts innermost feelings.

The vocal delivery is absolutely perfect for the song, impassioned and yearning.

I predict, some day, a thousand twinkles in the darkness of the arena as mobile phone lights sway among the crowds.
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: Jamie on July 30, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
@LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481)
Hi Leo, +1 to all the other comments, great vocals, almost Steve Wonder'ish in places. Great production too......No complaints from me!

Cheers

Jamie
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: kevysc on July 30, 2020, 03:33:45 PM
Wow! Fantastic vocals (and BVs), this is really, really good. Super melody and great production, hard to fault the mix.

This is better than 95 % of the professional Motown / Soul material out there, well done!

Kevin
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: PaulAds on July 30, 2020, 08:47:45 PM
Knockout vocal and the backing is beautifully smooth too.

If someone was holding a gun to my head and demanding that I find something to say that didn't involve gushing, I'd have to say that the word "robbery" doesn't quite sing as nicely as it reads. But then, assuming that I'd sufficiently pacified them with my enforced nit-picking, I'd wait 'til they put the gun down, then grab it and shoot the bastard for making me say it.

Keyboards are lovely too.

Top stuff, Leo.
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: LostBoy on August 01, 2020, 11:29:49 AM
@Melusine2 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22580) @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) @kevysc (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19775) @shadowfax (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20024) @MonnoDB (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19820) @bigFishAndTheSmallPondets (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20529) @paulads @Unclenny (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22611) @Jamie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19125)
 A big thanks guys for checking it out and for your comments. I have made some adjustments thanks to your feedback and probably will continue to do so.😁👍🏻
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: Darren1664 on August 01, 2020, 12:49:34 PM
This is an excellent piece of songwriting

You’ve always produced strong songs with great lyrics. Your vocals and vocal tone are lovely, wish I had 1/10th of you vocal. I thought the production was spot on but hopefully the more experience can offer pointers (if there are any)

Enjoyed the listen :)
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: cowparsleyman on August 02, 2020, 09:33:11 AM
@LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481) - Hi Leo, wonderful songwriting, love the organ and some of the drum fills, (listened on apple earbuds...)

I can hear the vintage element, the overall construction of the song is perfect.

I really wrestled with the mix on this as I wanted to make it sound a little rough around the edges with saturation, but man does that stuff make your mix sound harsh and brittle...sigh...so this is where I've landed for now. I hope you like it? Lyrics ok? Melody? Vocal volume? Is that triangle a touch too loud?? All thoughts are welcome and thanks.


I agree with @MonnoDB (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19820) about some of the Rhodes fills sound a little MIDI'ish, and the brass a little bit so. Maybe reduce the number of fills and embellishments that are adding interest throughout, it kind of takes away the focus from the vocal melody.

If anything I thought the bass Gtr could be a little more 'flabby' and a touch saturated, (as if going through an old, well toured bassman)

Some of the drum fills are also little out of context, they might benefit from being really simple, with just simple, but different end of groove fills.

The Vocals are spot on, nice EQ and at the right level in the mix.

The vintage vibe is a very bright thing Leo, part of this maybe is due to the gear they used and that they had to carve a chunk of wax to make a vinyl disk, the more bass the deeper they had to go, the deeper it went the more likely the needle would skip to the next groove..

I've toyed with some of the earlier genres, and Boy (or Lost Boy, I should say) you're right, the sound is bright TG12345 desk is super bright, so there is a lot of harshness around, funny though loads of people are yearning for that analogue gear, but it was warm and noisey. I understand the tricks that  your ears have been playing....you kind of get sucked into a new  level of brightness, and then everything sounds too bright, trust your ears, but keep an eye on the spectrum analyser, such as voxengo span, that'll tell you what's going on, but if it sounds right, it probably is.


But despite all that, it was the songs that were just superb, like this one.

Hope this helps


Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: moraamarolaloba on August 03, 2020, 12:36:49 PM
Hola @LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481)

I just heard you, I was still a little nervous after hearing the news and your song has relaxed me, the general sound of the instrumentation and of your voice.
It has been a very pleasant experience.
Sorry to tell you this but I would put a little introduction to your song !!!
Otherwise, the style, color, production and voices are great.
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: adamfarr on August 04, 2020, 11:26:46 AM
Fab song. I felt a bit the reverse of Paul - I didn't immediately take to "daylight robbery" when I read it, but that part is catchy as heck and really stuck with me these last few days. I really like titles / lines that take everyday phrases and make them into something memorable like that anyway.

Love the vocal, BVs and little keyboard sprinkles. Awesome stuff.   
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: montydog on August 04, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
This is immediately perfect - it sets out the musical frame within a few seconds. This is right up my street - could have been recorded at Muscle Shoals in 1969. Superb, soulful vocals, gorgeous harmonies, organ is perfect. Reminds me of David Ruffin on the vocal. What can I say - it's bleedin' magic!
M
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: Jambrains on August 04, 2020, 01:39:24 PM
Great vibe to the mix, think the vox need to come up at a little few places e.g. around 30 sec but mostly it is spot on
Fab vocals and backing is solid but it feels like this is not quite you "thing".
Don't get me wrong, it all sounds fab but something does not feel quite right, a bit too "old" sounding to be a perfect fit for you.
Still very,very good write and superbly executed.
Title: Re: Daylight Robbery
Post by: Wicked Deeds on August 08, 2020, 10:59:05 AM
Hi Leo,

This is so polished.  The vocal melody and different song sections  keep the listener engaged yet you manage to come back to that libel you chorus which stays with us long afte the song has ended. Impressive, accomplished writing with great vocals.  It might be an idea to make the guitar more reliant on guitar to really capture that vintage sound.  A quality composition!

Paul