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Title: Don't make me lie
Post by: Skub on August 31, 2019, 01:15:01 PM
Lyrics based on a Katie Wilson Poem.

Additional vocals Amanda Sanderson.

Katie's verse is a cry from the heart to let people be what they are,rather than fit what someone views as 'normal'. Let's just live our lives and not force anyone to lie,to be desperately unhappy,just to 'fit in'.

I know you don't understand
Don't make me lie
I'm tearing out my soul
Howling at the sky

I can't hide no more
Don't make me lie
Take me to a better day
Before I die

Please,please,don't make me lie
Please,please,don't make me lie

I'm not a man no more
Don't make me lie
I want everyone to know
I don't wanna hide

Please,please,don't make me lie
Please,please,don't make me lie......

Be yourselfDon't hideDon't lie to fit in
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: shadowfax on August 31, 2019, 01:32:53 PM
Heartfelt song! hope things get better for peeps in the kind of situation I think this song is referring too :)

best, Kevin
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: cowparsleyman on August 31, 2019, 01:50:49 PM
@Skub (;u=20061) @Girlinside (;u=22372) - Really like this, the passion in the Vocal delivery along with the verse, is supreme, like the simple arrangement, it emphasises the message, lovely song and interpetation of lyrics.

Katie - thanks for words, how's the Guitar practise going? did you develop 'Where are you going Stranger?'

Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Neil C on September 04, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
Simple and heartfelt tune which builds on the two chords [ :-) solo apart] and all the better for that straightforwardness. Goes with the universal direct lyrics too.

Sounds catchy and strong as a result.  I think it would sound great live with the crowd joining in.
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: PaulAds on September 05, 2019, 08:39:25 AM
Cool little number...nice use of Katie's lyrics and it builds excellently into the end playout chorus...which is a humdinger (as nobody seems to say anymore 😃)

Guitars and bass are impeccable.
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: pompeyjazz on September 05, 2019, 01:55:45 PM
A really strong set of lyrics from Katie here. Very heartfelt. I think that your vocals with Amanda work really well together and the use of the massed voices is particularly effective. There's some great geetar work as well which is pretty par for the course from you Davy  :)

Lovely track
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: MonnoDB on September 05, 2019, 07:24:33 PM
Great song - love those words Katie.. that melody and layered vocals really bring them to life.. Love particularly (I don't know what to call this so bear with me) the "ho-ow-ow-ling"  etc at the first word of the last verse lines (snappy description, eh?! :)).. and the aahs...

Love your vocals together - they work very well.. Altogether a very impactful song and (as always) what awesome guitar work! Fab!
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: adamfarr on September 06, 2019, 09:00:15 AM
I really like that line "don't make me lie" - it really encapsulates the song right from the outset.

I think the idea of a duet is really great idea given the theme of the song. Davy - I thought the vocals (and yours particularly) sounded a bit too "phasy" - maybe I'd back that effect off a little.

Catchy and effective song!
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: MichaelA on September 06, 2019, 11:20:53 AM
A real heartfelt song, boy is this forum making me sad today! ;)

As folk have said, the lyrics are direct but really special. Voices go really well together and technically kept tight too.

The melody is strong throughout and the chorus is sing-a-long catchy as something like 'Hey Jude'. Could easily be a hit record this.

Faded out all too soon! :)
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: digger72 on September 08, 2019, 10:00:26 AM

Well put together song.
The dynamics throughout are really good. Keeps lots of interest.
I could imagine Lennon doing this back in the day. A sing along like Give Peace A Chance.
Production is really good.

Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: LukeArmstrongMusic on September 09, 2019, 10:58:11 AM
heartfelt and honest! Lovely duet on a beautiful song :)
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: PaulyX on September 09, 2019, 08:54:29 PM
This track feels like it has real soul - there's a weight behind it, a genuineness that feels quite rare.  It comes from the lyrics and the vocal delivery and the plaintive guitars I think.  Clever touch to use a male/female duet on it (especially the way Amanda takes over with the line "I'm not a man anymore").
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Modestmouse1965/ on September 10, 2019, 08:22:24 PM
Soulful and heartfelt. Great guitar work and vocals. I don't usually listen to this style of music, i don't listen to classical either but i do appreciate both. Well done guys and gals.
I didn't realize you had so many songs. What a great guitar player and talent you are. Was gonna have an early night for work in the morning but not by the time i have listened to your stuff. Damn you are good. 
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Wicked Deeds on September 12, 2019, 12:06:58 PM
Great feel to this track. Love the instrumentation. It's so accomplished. Fine vocals and guitars, including bass. I'm reviewing from my phone so maybe I'm wrong in saying the vocals might be a little loud in the overall mix. Still quality in all areas! What a bass sound!

Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Jamie on September 12, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
Hi Skub, lovely collaboration, very Lennonesque in the melody, harmonies and instrumentation. Made me think of 'Don't let me down' once or twice because of the harmonies and the emotional vocals. Super guitars and production, as usual! Felt a bit more Nashville than Belfast! :P 8)
Great stuff Davey
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Skub on September 14, 2019, 05:54:48 PM
@shadowfax (;u=20024)

Yeah me too Kev. Tolerance and acceptance would be great if we all practiced it.   :-\

@cowparsleyman (;u=21308)

Thanks from us all Rich.  :)

@Neil C (;u=18856)

There's a crowd Neil?   :D Cheers man.

@PaulAds (;u=20253)

Thanks Paul,that's a humdinger of a comment.  ;)

@pompeyjazz (;u=20269)

Katie writes from the heart for sure,cheers John.  :)

@MonnoDB (;u=19820)

I don't know what it's called either Karen! Thanks from the 3 of us.  :)

@adamfarr (;u=20124)

Thanks Adam. I tend to use much the same vocal setup every time,maybe I ought to vary it a little sometimes!  :D

@MichaelA (;u=21274)

We all thanks Michael. I still have a thing for short songs!  :)

@digger72 (;u=9823)

Ta Digger,hope all is well with you man.  :)
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on September 18, 2019, 04:35:15 PM
Hey this is very good Davy and I'll echo all other comments about the singalong quality of that title/hookline.

Nice how it builds in intensity with those super multi vocals - a simple kind of musical backing but it all seems to keep changing all the time and then does veer off nicely at 1.20. And it's a great pick-up again after the interlude.

Lots of changes in dynamics here in such a short song. I know you're an apostle of the short song these days but I think this could have stood being a bit longer.....ok maybe not as long a playout as Hey Jude as somebody suggested but a bit could have taken it!

Nice one anyway.
Title: Re: Don't make me lie
Post by: Skub on September 21, 2019, 09:05:49 PM
@LukeArmstrongMusic (;u=22101)

Thanks Luke.  :)

@PaulyX (;u=21034)

Glad you liked it Pauly,thanks man.  :)

@Modestmouse1965/ (;u=22459)

Thanks a lot for your kind remarks. I'm just an old hack really!  ;D It's cool you took the time to listen to a few tracks.

@Wicked Deeds (;u=19231)

I've a habit of making the vocals too loud Paul,thanks for the heads up,I pulled them back a little.

@Jamie (;u=19125)

Good to see you around Jamie. Me and pomps doing the Lennon thing!  ;D

@Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra

Thanks Ian. I daresay the short song thing will run it's course,like all my other fads!  :D