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Title: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Neil C on January 15, 2019, 09:17:48 AM
Hi all,
So last year with had two great challenges, drumming with the Clash and the 1 minute challenge.

So why not set ourselves one for the spring and encourage people to collaborate.

Subject? to start the debate how about Exotic?

 :)
neil

 
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on January 15, 2019, 09:24:52 AM
Hi Neil!

I think it'a a great idea! Two or three theme based competition a year is a great way to make collabs.
I'd really like a collab to compensate for my slow food-lyrics writing. And of course DRUMS.
What do you mean by 'exotic'? I'm all up for something outside of the 'guy with a guitar' box.

All the best,
Martin
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Neil C on January 15, 2019, 09:28:36 AM
Martin,

"Definition of exotic. (Entry 1 of 2) 1 : introduced from another country : not native to the place where found exotic plants. 2 archaic : foreign, alien. 3 : strikingly, excitingly, or mysteriously different or unusual exotic flavor"

but seriously its broad enough for people to interpret it as they see fit..

:-)
neil
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Binladeda on January 15, 2019, 10:34:08 AM

 Hi Neil  ;D .   Always up for a comp  ;D
 Count me in......Exotic ??  How about Erotic ??  ;D ;D



Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on January 15, 2019, 10:55:55 AM
@ Neil C

I like how the definitions refers back to the original word.

.Martin
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: adamfarr on January 15, 2019, 11:59:23 AM
I like it... Missed both comps last year so...
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Wicked Deeds on January 15, 2019, 06:59:28 PM
@Neil C (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18856),

This could well Be on my radar. I enjoy writing mostly when Someone sets a challenge. Exotic/erotic can easily be weaved into the same song!

Cool!

Paul
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Paulski on January 17, 2019, 01:38:14 AM
I'm game if it's neurotic   :D :D
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: CaliaMoko on January 17, 2019, 03:32:58 AM
@Paulski : At the end of the song you could always say, "Oh, you said exotic (or erotic, whichever turns your crank).  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 17, 2019, 06:37:35 AM
How about a fusion of 2 top level genres

Just pick any 2 they have to be recognisable. Like classical and hip hop, or country and britpop .....

Rich
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Binladeda on January 17, 2019, 08:40:53 AM

 Or anything ending in....tic ;D ;D .  Quite like Richs' idea of mixing two genres though.....

Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 17, 2019, 12:32:36 PM
binladeda-tastic
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: pompeyjazz on January 17, 2019, 03:01:15 PM
Count me in whether its exotic, erotic or cross genre  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: PaulAds on January 17, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
I hope to be in there too...with one of my own...but I'm definitely planning to cook something up with Vicki again.
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on January 18, 2019, 06:43:08 AM
I've decided not to go for FAWM this year, so hopefully I'll have time helping to arrange this contest. My suggestion is that we aim at doing it in March. That's a real sucker of a month in Sweden, not winter, not spring, all the dog dropping melt out of the ice, well the list is long...

Nilotic is a word that doesn't go in controversy with the theme, but @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) kind of nailed it with 'Tutankhamun's Tomb'.
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: pompeyjazz on January 18, 2019, 07:58:50 AM
Ah Martin. You've just ruined my perceptions of what a lovely country Sweden is  ;D

Nilotic is a new one for me. I had to Google it  :)

Like it  :)
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: adamfarr on January 18, 2019, 08:32:08 AM
March... could be Brexotic...
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: pompeyjazz on January 18, 2019, 08:41:43 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Binladeda on January 18, 2019, 08:49:40 AM

 Isn't cross genre both exotic and erotic  ;D ;D .  There you have it then........

Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Binladeda on January 19, 2019, 10:08:09 AM

 oops...was thinking of cross gender, not cross genre  ;D ;D

Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: crystalsuzy on January 20, 2019, 11:59:37 AM
How about a fusion of 2 top level genres

Just pick any 2 they have to be recognisable. Like classical and hip hop, or country and britpop .....

Rich

I thought that's how you were suppose to write songs  ;D ;D ;D  I might be in if we can throw a little "psychotic" into the mix  ;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Neil C on January 24, 2019, 02:07:32 PM
Okay so theme is something like exotic/erotic. Let your muse take you...

And target 31st March, which is two and a bit months, that should be okay.

Martin had volunteered to help co-host. So could someone offer to help him we’d be all set to go :-)

Neil
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: crystalsuzy on January 25, 2019, 12:23:34 AM
what about what Rich suggested? I think that would be a cool challenge :)

"How about a fusion of 2 top level genres

Just pick any 2 they have to be recognisable. Like classical and hip hop, or country and britpop .....

So we're not going to have the 2 completely different genres included"[/b]

Rich
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on January 26, 2019, 08:37:11 AM
Hi all!

I'm all up for starting/posting the Topic at say, 10th of February with complete guidelines finishing day and so forth.
But I'd really like some help with formulation. I tend to get a bit wordy.

Just listening to tracks posted, I'd say many of the members all ready use some cut/paste when it comes to genres. But I think it's a more solid and understandable condition than 'exotic'. I suggest collaboration should be greatly supported but optional. It might be a problem with (reversed) biasing if we vote and three members have collaborated on a song and then are not allowed to vote on their song. Giving is a minus count of (-)3, where as a song made by one member only has a minus count of (-)1. If on the other hand a lot of members with no competition entry vote this will even out.

I assume a ratio of 1:5 will be sufficient. From memory I have no statistics on the 'Summer Comp' or 'Drum Challenge'.

Anyway. This post is mostly made to prove the point that I need someone to help me make things MORE fun and LESS bureaucratic.

Ps. Would The Verve:s song 'Bitter Sweet Symphony' be considered as a song with two distinct genres? Ds.

All the best,

Martin
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: cowparsleyman on February 01, 2019, 08:28:28 PM
@Martinswede (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20851) - A few ideas fo the entrants...

Put a different drum beat on an existing track
Change the gtr vst to heavy instead of clean, or vice versa
speed it up/slow it down
Chop it up
put 2 songs together, and sellotape over the joins....

Lykka till Martin as they say(I think)...must go and listen to Lordi, just can't be serious with those masks...

Hope this helps
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: pompeyjazz on February 01, 2019, 10:05:05 PM
Any ideas as to who will be running this comp with @Martinswede (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20851) and do we have a theme ? I know there have been loads of ideas. I guess it's down to you guys organising it to make a decision on that front  :) There's one helluva a lot of ideas in the pot for sure
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on February 04, 2019, 02:31:11 PM
Hi people, and members who'd rather not be referred to as a part of the collective group in layman's terms called 'The human race', (no pun intended, though the context of a contest)!

Winter is here and as we say in Sweden- Half of the snow falls in February.
All the pretty birds have flown south, but the ones we recent are still sticking around,
starving, sh*****ng, scaring old people.

But that doesn't bring me down.

But... (Yes.)
It seems like, even with the kind help of @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269), this topic has lost it's momentum.
I take full responsibility for letting it go more sideways than forward.

If anyone feel like reassembling the troops and get this, or some version of it, another go the turn out might 
as a nice complement to 'Feedback on finished songs' and 'SOTM'.

Thank you for all good ideas so far,

Cheers
/Martin
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: pompeyjazz on February 04, 2019, 10:32:27 PM
So any takers to help @Martinswede (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20851) then ? Of course I could volunteer again but that's fecking boring cos you just get my angle. Come on you talented and creative people and let's get a compo going  :)
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on February 07, 2019, 03:54:14 PM
So. I decided, if it's Ola Kala with @Neil C (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18856),  to run the competition myself. I'll check in and see if anyone is interested in helping out with the voting part(the booooring part) at the end of the competition.

My plan is to post a Competition topic on Monday 11th with general guidelines and a motivation speech. I'll also create a post in Collaborations as a board to easily find collabs for this Competition, further referenced to as The Spring Quest.

I'll set it up running for six weeks. End date 31th March. Mostly to enable for spontaneous collabs along the writing/recording process.

I'll do my best to get new members/Buskers to join in, since it might be a good way to start collaborating/elaborating within The Forum.

All the best,
Martin
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: pompeyjazz on February 07, 2019, 05:20:13 PM
Good on yer @Martinswede (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20851)  :)
Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: PaulAds on February 07, 2019, 05:47:16 PM
Yeah. Well done for keeping this idea going, Martin.

Count me in for submitting an entry...and i will help any way I can.

Forum seems to be struggling a bit lately...apart from the "finished songs" section, it's a bit quiet...

Title: Re: 2019 new competition - ideas?
Post by: Martinswede on February 07, 2019, 06:36:11 PM
Thank you both! (And @adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124) )

I agree with you Paul. I've occupied myself a bit going through the forum statistics, it's in my blood, and things seem to have settled quite a lot since the high tides of 2016.

I personally find it a bit of a struggle to comment on songs that are actually finished. It's like the song comes in second hand and the production's in the spotlight. I'm fairly confident in my ability to analyze a song, but when it comes to production I'm at a loss. Most of the music I listen to have no common ideal of production. It's almost like the production is more coincidental than idealistic. I seldom hear a certain production value when I listen to Chopin. Some players just make it sound better. My personal reflection is that the concept of production, not arranging, is the cause of the constant degradation of quality in popular and unpopular music. Forget the robot conspiracy. Recent the inbred ideals of production! 

Mic drop,
Martin