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Title: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 14, 2018, 09:31:19 AM
Whato

Here's the latest in my challenge to try to record different genres, mainly to improve my production.

As always I'd really appreciate any critique/ideas/nit picking etc.




The Dancerellas are at the Gaumont in Ipswich, It's 1962. You're 14, You go to see your first live concert. Your Dad takes you in his 10 yr old Austin.
You and your friend have the single that you've played every day on the Stereogram in the dining room, You've seen them in Melody Maker, and you adore what they wear and your secret scrapbook under your bed has all their photos in.

You have already asked your parents for a Pogo Stick for Christmas, that's the new craze,..

This is the single at that gig. You go to bed with your ears ringing but you can't sleep...Bounce bounce 20oz....

Lyrics

Intro

Verse 1
Let's play a game (What kind of game do you wanna play?)
I don't know
Football's on (Joe Montana)
Ballgame's on (Hanky Aaron)
So much on and nothing to do

Verse2
Hey, I got a brainwave,
Tell me more, tell me more alright I will
I got a pogo stick,Wow, that should do the trick
I got bouncing boots (Bouncing boots)
I got a a stick trick book (Dr Seuss)
So much on and something to do

Bridge
Pogo Stick? (Yeah that's cool)
Do you know any tricks?
Sure do you know the 180? (I heard about that)
Or the Beatle bounce? (Sounds cool)
or the 20oz? (Scherwing)
The Lindy Hop
The Dallas Bop

Alright lets go, get that thing and.......

Bounce, Bounce 20oz

Credits
Pam Barrett - Vocals, Hollas, Whoops, Beehive, slacks and '57 Chevvy
Pam Barrett & CPM - Lyrics & Vocals
CPM - Music, instruments, Production and greased back hair, cardigan and Wayfarers

Instruments
Stratocaster,Hammond B3, Farfisa organ, Telecaster, Precision bass, Gretsch Kit, Tambourine,
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: shadowfax on December 14, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
Yep!! sounds like 1962 for sure, so you got that right...also shades of the B52's..well done..
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 14, 2018, 05:20:01 PM
@shadowfax (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20024) - Thanks for the listen and the comments. Good to know I'm on the right track.

cpm
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: PaulAds on December 14, 2018, 05:34:17 PM
Yeah...great early '60s feel with a hint of the B-52s in there too.

I thought that it might be an idea to have the crowd noise going all the way through the track? Otherwise it perhaps sounds slightly like the start and the end of the track (bits with the crowd on) are separate from the main track?

I did something similar a while back and used an app called "livetunes" which - although it's a little bit "overkill" it works quite well, I think...https://soundcloud.com/thefuneralcrasher/a-live-ep

Just a thought - and sorry for the slight thread hijack - regardless of that, it's a good song...I loved the bass and the fun twin vocal works really well too . Pretty decent drumming as well  :)
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 14, 2018, 07:03:12 PM
Whato @PaulAds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20253) - Thanks very much for the listen. You know Paul, I have spent quite a while refining the mix on this, and only yesterday did I find what the issue was, it was exactly what you said, there are 2 crowd tracks in it, and I had them both at varying levels all the way through, and it was acting as sound damper, so I removed it from the middle section and it all came together in about an hour, I wasn't sure if it worked, as you say it's kind of strange not hearing it, like going from a live to a dry studio than back to the live setting again, but I'll see how its received in this forum...

I'll send you one of the mixes with it in...it's great in theory but not so great where the frequencies of the instrument clash with those of the crowd...

Any way glad you like it, cheers for the nod for the bass (it was great fun), and the drumming...it was a gas doing the twin vox, I learnt so much about Texas.... I just couldn't resist the 'Telstar' cameo, not to mention Austin

I don't know if you know, but my mixes have to pass my 'Car Test', and this mix did this morning, I was dancing about in my seat, with it loud and I was loving every minute of it, Behave baby...

There's always something I could do to it...

Thanks again Paul

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: pompeyjazz on December 14, 2018, 09:27:11 PM
You paint an interesting picture with your introduction @cowparsleyman (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21308) Was the Austin an A40 in baked bean can blue ? You've done some interesting stuff here and clever musical references to the shadows and the fab four harmonies and twist and shout ending. I also picked up on the B52s feel and thought this had a New Wave feel to it. I think the crowd noises worked well but would like to have heard them come and go throughout the song although that would be a b*****d to do. This is top work and it seems that you had great fun doing it. I also admire the fact that you are genre jumping. I'm sure that you learn loads from each genre  :)
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: MichaelA on December 14, 2018, 11:59:28 PM
Yeah, guess the B52s in the 80s were retro re the 60's, and despite the similarities with the thin fender sounding guitar and female vox, this song has a lovely energy all of its own. Nice concept to paint that vivid picture of a time gone by, and I was willingly transported back in your time tardis!

Very entertaining track!
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Cawproductions on December 15, 2018, 02:23:26 PM
Hi CPM,

Looovvve Shaaaack....er..  ok I am back in the room.

Defo got that right vibe.

Myself and Mikey are currently looking into how to recreate that 50's recorded sound. Lots of tape and old mic technology I suspect.

Nice Work Dude.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Movin Flavour on December 15, 2018, 04:51:19 PM
You set the scene really well, before I even played the song.

The whole song feels like a trip down memory lane.

Each segment feels like I'm opening a door to my past.

Especially love the base and the organs.

Great samples....what was that Shadows and thx for the Beatles at the end, can't think of a better way to end the song.

If you are experimenting with productions, then you can do my songs anytime.

Sandeep
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Jenna on December 15, 2018, 04:58:37 PM
Great job on bringing the 60s back to life. Fun song. I think it's perfect as is.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 15, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Whato All - First, many thanks for the time you took to listen to my indulgence...

@pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) - Yip Baked Bean Blue, not puke mustard...it had poke out ear indicators...I'll put the version with the crowd all the way through up probably next week...Yip I had a right gas doing this one, It was super to be able to realise this one.

I have learned a shed load doing each one, I'll go over that later...

@MichaelA (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21274) - That's one of my problems with it, how to meld the the '80s with the '60's and wondered if the frozen tap echo sounded misplaced, it was a direct nod to the B52's - the track '52 girls. I listened to quite a few of their tracks to get some idea of how they approach it, do they have a story, Love Shack, Cake, 52 girls does, Rock Lobster kind of does...

@Cawproductions (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20938) - Cheers about the vibe, much appreciated.

A bit more about it...for those who are interested.

Just one drum track with a few compressors on it, Waves C6 multiband and the Fairchild 670...it was really important to work on the kick and snare, as the kick was really exposed at the beginning...just stereo so that was a challenge in itself. Also a waves transx to add punch, that i couldn’t get from the compressors.

No mic sim technology, just Scheps 73, that's just great for Vocal EQ, along with izotop Nectar2 elements..plus whiff to the aux busses.

3 Guitars had Waves GTR amp sim, the Waves TG12345, the real key was Waves Abbey Road Vinyl, that is just brilliant to capture the 'old vibe, more so than the J37 tape, spent a load of time getting the drums, bass and guitars right before adding anything else.

organs were Arturia B3 and Farfisa, with a bit of Soundtoys decapitator and Scheps73.

Bass had Vandal 15" bass amp sim along with the COSM Ampeg fliptop sim from my Rolans 100 bass cube

auxbusses Waves Abbey Road Plates, Abbey Road Chambers, Urei 1176, and LA2 for vox (always use @ 0dB) and send just whiff to these, can't state that enough, just a couple of dB.

submix busses for LVox (had Waves Vocal rider on it, but I took that off..., BVox, all instruments, separate VCAs for LVox and BVox both on the subs.

Some tacks used 2D surround panning to accurately place the Vox.

Master buss SSL bus comp, Stereo enchancer from magix (just brilliant), normalised to -14 lufs, no maximiser.

Did a LOT of mono master buss listening, nearly released it in Mono for extra authenticity...but rejected that idea.

Probably missed a load, soundtoys primal tap freeze at object level on the Whoops only.

No tape sims. I think the TG12345 and vinyl did a lot to help, many of the waves products have analogue and drive features which were used subtly.

if you have any questions let me know and I'll see if I can assist.

Hope it helps

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 15, 2018, 05:17:19 PM
Wahto @Movin Flavour (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20528) - thanks very much for the listen

Sandeep, I'll be in touch with regard to producing your songs....

cheers

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: pompeyjazz on December 15, 2018, 10:21:13 PM
You mean like this one ?
https://goo.gl/images/mnQ7jV
I was thinking more like this
https://goo.gl/images/LQAVHw
 :)
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: crystalsuzy on December 16, 2018, 03:52:27 AM
Wow<that was an amazing trip down memory lane! Fantastic job making all those different song ideas run so smoothly together. I love that bass and organ, and oh the brass is awesome, and all the back up vocals, and the Beatles ending was perfect :) A Truly fantastic job  :)
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 16, 2018, 09:39:22 AM
You mean like this one ?
https://goo.gl/images/mnQ7jV
I was thinking more like this
https://goo.gl/images/LQAVHw
 :)

Yip, the blue is the one, exactly that one

Thanks pj
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 16, 2018, 10:34:27 AM
Whato @crystalsuzy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18947) Thank you very much for the kind words I really appreciate them. Glad you like it.

It was a right gas to write and produce this one although very challenging at times.

Just for the record (7”) the brass was magix independence with the waves aural exciter, which for some reason brings brass to life...

Thanks

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 19, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
@Jenna (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21074) - Thanks for the listen, appreciate your kind words.

Regards

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: MonnoDB on December 19, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
Great scene setting with your introduction and also the ‘love shack/twist’ part in the beginning. Great vibe appropriate to the era so I think you filled the brief very convincingly.. apart from all that it’s a cool and catchy song very well performed. Love the confidence of the vocals and it has a great sense of fun to it. Not surprised you were dancing in your car!
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Wicked Deeds on December 19, 2018, 06:52:16 PM
love the back story! The guitar riff kicks in and I immefiately think about 'Love Machine'. it is so close. Perhaps,  that's drliberate as I later hear The Shadows making an appearance and also the Twist and shout riff. Anyway, I admire your plan to write and perform in different genres. Guess I shoukd be doing this more too.  Very enjoyable!

Paul
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Mikey on December 19, 2018, 06:58:19 PM
Hi @cowparsleyman (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21308)

Love the B52's vibe, and you've done a good job of capturing a vintage sounding mix, the song is good fun too.

Cheers, Mikey
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: RealKevM on December 20, 2018, 12:10:52 AM
Great vibe, I like the idea of getting away from a genre or comfort zone.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Yodasdad on December 20, 2018, 08:38:04 AM
I'm struggling to review this one if I'm honest, it falls so far out of my frame of reference.

I enjoyed it though, it was a lot of fun and I can hear the craftsmanship that went in to creating it.

To be honest, I didn't notice the crowd noise disappearing until I went back and listened for it.

Liked the sporadic homages to different artists.

Sorry I can't be more constructive with this one, great work though.

Yodasdad
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 20, 2018, 12:46:15 PM
@Yodasdad (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19208) - Thanks for the listen...glad you enjoyed it, that's all one can ask for. I suppose it is my childhood influences coming out, I didn't plan it like that, they just appeared.

You know when something is just right, even int he early mixes, I was grinning like a cheshire cat when Austin does his thang, it went soo well with Pam's Vox.

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: montydog on December 24, 2018, 02:40:43 PM
Hi,

Great sounding track - you obviously know how to record and mix music. Song is good also but if you're trying to reproduce an early 60's vibe I think you've missed the mark. The electric guitar riff along with the bass line is pure "Love Shack" by the B-52s so that colours the whole feel. It's early 80's, not early 60's. (I remember one but not the other!).

It still a very skillfully and beautifully realised song.

M
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 24, 2018, 07:42:18 PM
Yuletide Greetings to you @montydog (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18653) - Thanks very much for the listen, and the compliments, I note your comment about the clash of the '60's and the '80's and I wondered about this as I planned it, could the 2 co-exist? I tried to capture the essence of the '60's with the retro/nostalgic feel of the '52's so perhaps it didn't work. To prep for the production,, I listened to a few '60's artists, beatles, kinks etc. to try and grab the mixing/production vibe, but I always wanted a '52's feel to it too, Pam was perfect for that, so I guess overall I'm happy with it, and concede that maybe it's not a true '60's thang.

I seem to remember that kind of twangy guitar riff in some of the sixties songs, can't remember which ones, probably Shadows & Beatles.

Thanks again

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: redrhodie on December 24, 2018, 11:15:51 PM
Woah! I'm loving Pam's vocals. I know her well enough to know this must have put her out of her comfort zone, but that's a great thing, and will make her grow as a singer. Yours sound great, too.  :)

I like the mix of styles. It harkens to the 60s as you wanted, but it feels like your song, not a cover, or a copy of a style. Great job. Very original sounding, and fun as heck. (Haha. Can't believe I said heck.)

Merry Christmas!
Lynn
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 26, 2018, 01:23:55 PM
Hi @redrhodie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21171) - I’ve thought a lot about you and that you were the catalyst for out collaborations, i have a lot to thank you for, she is one heck of a singer and a pleasure to work with, I’m forever in your debt.

How’s things with you, Lynn? Hope you had a rollickingly splendid Christmas, do you live near Boston?

If ever you need anything i can help with, feel free to pm me...

Regards

Rich

Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: redrhodie on December 26, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
Hi @redrhodie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21171) - I’ve thought a lot about you and that you were the catalyst for out collaborations, i have a lot to thank you for, she is one heck of a singer and a pleasure to work with, I’m forever in your debt.

How’s things with you, Lynn? Hope you had a rollickingly splendid Christmas, do you live near Boston?

If ever you need anything i can help with, feel free to pm me...

Regards

Rich


I'm really glad things worked out with Pam. I can't wait to hear what else you do together. I remember when she said she wanted to be a more versatile singer, and it's really happening. I'm glad I played a small part in it!

Christmas was really great. The lp is coming soon. I'm starting a new job in the next week. Things are totally wicked awesome.

How did you guess I'm near Boston? Amazing.

Happy New Year and thanks for the offer. We'll keep that in mind. You're too kind.

Lynn
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: fischermans on December 27, 2018, 06:31:04 AM
Cool song with a 100% B52 style for me. I liked it a lot. Very clear production.( How you guys always manage to do this  ::) ) Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 27, 2018, 10:40:30 AM
Hi @redrhodie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21171) - I’ve thought a lot about you and that you were the catalyst for out collaborations, i have a lot to thank you for, she is one heck of a singer and a pleasure to work with, I’m forever in your debt.

How’s things with you, Lynn? Hope you had a rollickingly splendid Christmas, do you live near Boston?

If ever you need anything i can help with, feel free to pm me...

Regards

Rich


I'm really glad things worked out with Pam. I can't wait to hear what else you do together. I remember when she said she wanted to be a more versatile singer, and it's really happening. I'm glad I played a small part in it!

Christmas was really great. The lp is coming soon. I'm starting a new job in the next week. Things are totally wicked awesome.

How did you guess I'm near Boston? Amazing.

Happy New Year and thanks for the offer. We'll keep that in mind. You're too kind.

Lynn

Lynn @redrhodie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21171) - good luck with the LP, How did I know you are near Boston, Well, I guess you were from Rhode island (Red - like the Chicken) and I looked up where that is.

Good luck with your job

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 27, 2018, 10:44:53 AM
Cool song with a 100% B52 style for me. I liked it a lot. Very clear production.( How you guys always manage to do this  ::) ) Thanks for sharing.

Whato @fischermans (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19014) -  first thanks for the listen, glad you liked it. I try my best with the production, It's probably more luck than judgement ! 8), and a lot of picky self critical listening, I alwyas imagine that I'm listening to it on the radio, along with millions of other listeners, so it HAS to be right to my ears.

Thanks again

Rich

Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 27, 2018, 10:47:20 AM
...wasn't there a '60's song called 'Tommy Gunn' or similar  with a single repetative guitar riff, I had just a 6th sense that there was something like this?
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 27, 2018, 10:53:27 AM
love the back story! The guitar riff kicks in and I immefiately think about 'Love Machine'. it is so close. Perhaps,  that's drliberate as I later hear The Shadows making an appearance and also the Twist and shout riff. Anyway, I admire your plan to write and perform in different genres. Guess I shoukd be doing this more too.  Very enjoyable!

Paul

@Wicked Deeds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19231) - Thanks for your listen, Who did 'Love Machine'? I don't know that song. Glad you liked it.

It's very enjoyable to try something different, really does give one a spring in one's step, and beleive me there have been quite a few moments over the year when I've woken up and thought, THAT would sound good, of maybe I try that (then having done it, it sounds rubbish, or it doesn't go at all)

In this one I had a Telecaster track called 'Shrill Guitar' it was a super hooky line on a Telecaster, but it just crowded the main hook, so I left it out. Sometimes less is more, there's always the next song...

Regards

Rich
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Skub on December 29, 2018, 08:09:17 PM
Yo CPM

Cool 60s vibe carries the song well. Those who have been there will appreciate,but it still has a broad appeal.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on December 30, 2018, 11:03:16 AM
Whato @Skub (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20061) - Nice to hear from you again Man, hope your'e well and had a great Christmas...Thanks for the listen, and comment.

btw. I chose 1962 because I had a mate who had a 1962 Gibson SG special (with bigsby) it was gorgeous, it was refretted and resprayed to a pale cherry sunburst by Andy's guitar workshop in London, played itself. he went and bought a 1964 335, and sold me the SG for £210, I used it for a few years, then sold it for £170 as the p'90's were unbearabley noisey, worst thing I ever did, as Elvis said 'you were always on my mind.... :-\

AAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrgggghhhhh.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on December 31, 2018, 07:04:43 PM
Really nice production cpm and good fun vibe. Guitar especially sounds super cool.

Got to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your last post too (sorry I didn't comment at the time!) also great sound to it....you're really knocking out some good sounding stuff now so, for me, your productions are coming on a treat. You've reached another level. Good work...keep it up.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Binladeda on January 01, 2019, 06:37:31 PM

 Hey Rich  ;D

 Love this track....much fabulousness about it ;D ;D
 It's a great 'mover'.  Love that bass. The sound is perfect....you just got to MOVE ;D ;D
 The vocals are first class...very clever, entertaining stuff.  The female vox works a treat.
 All round winner my friend  ;D ;D

 Happy New Year  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Orange Mississippi on January 02, 2019, 09:32:32 AM
Hi I’ve listened to your other stuff which I love - this doesn’t do it for me just not my thing , I found it to mono , I understand what you are trying to achieve and you do - just not my thing
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: Neil C on January 04, 2019, 10:21:46 AM
Great intro and the beatlesque ending fab too.
Tight playing and got the 60's pastiche vibe you were after, with a loose 'love shack' style vocals.
Liked the bass, organ and brass in particular.

Sound like you had fun doing it too.
 :)
neil 

Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 05, 2019, 09:29:21 AM
Whato all (bump aware now...) - thanks again for the listen and comments...

@Neil C (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18856) - Thanks that's what I was after, it means a lot especially your noting the bass and brass, spent quite a while oon those, lots of fun and concentration.

@Orange Mississippi (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=22290) - That's cool, there's always a risk of that when genre jumping ( @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) - thanks for that) maybe the next few will hit the spot? To be honest I wasn't overly convinced about the playing a game theme for the lyrics, but I couldn't think of anything better, and it lent itself well to a short story, as well as Pam's Texas drawl, seemed to fit.

@Binladeda (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18620) - Cheers old boy, yeah, it got me moving i tell you, reminded me of a session I did about 30 yrs ago where all the band members we supposed to be doing BVox, and we were huddled around a big mic with a great Cans mix, and we ALL were dancing about like maniacs, doing the James Brown thang, all that stomping wasn't appreciated by the engineer, funnily enough we used that take in the final mix, as it had the most soul.

It was a gas to hear some of the stems Pam laid down, she had a terrible cold during the project and still was kind enough to do it, some of the whoops and hollas sounded like howlin wolf. ;D

@Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra - Thanks man, really nice of you to say, I try hard and also try to learn as I go. I listen a lot and also take care to note what you folks say here, as there is a good cross section of opinion here, Funny I thought of you this week,  I had to look at the statistical correlation value of CramerV this week!

One thing I've learned in this one is that Waves plugins that try to emulate vintage gear are PERFECT for the job, they do get a bit of a clobbering on the Web, don't know why, maybe because they all don't look like FabFilter, or that they are old and processor hungry. (I do also own some very modern tasty plugins too, so I can compare them...)

btw...I should have listened to my ears, I thought it was a bit quiet when I mastered it, so I'm going to increase the loudness a tad, (I was very careful not to squash the dynamic range as this one needs a lot of space in it).

Thanks again to everyone that listened and commented, if I can help just ask.

Regards

Rich






Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: macker71165 on January 05, 2019, 11:44:55 AM
nice retro beatley  guitar sounds and a b52   vibe  like ya production  and dig the  bass sound
  good job
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: The Portrait Piano on January 14, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
You cant help but jump up & boogie to this one it's really catchy. The playfulness between the two vocals draws you into the song.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: LostBoy on January 20, 2019, 09:57:45 PM
Great fun Rich!! Mission accomplished I say! I always wanted a pogo stick! I did have a punctured space hopper though!! Yay for me!🎶👊🏻🎶😄
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 21, 2019, 08:43:00 AM
Whato - Thanks very much for taking the time to listen, much appreciated

@macker71165 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20758) - Thanks very much fro your kind words, glad you like the prod and the bass, sometimes those pesky bass guitars take quite a bit to get them sounding right.

@The Portrait Piano (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20602) - Cheers for that, yeah even after all those time of hearing it, I still love to dance to it. Twas was really interesting planning each vocal part, It was important to me to use phrases that sounded really Southern, against the Britishness of my voice, so some phrases were dropped in favour for ones that accentuated the Southern drawl, 'you'll - Did you catch that at the end when Pam says Thank yer very much, Thank you'all.

@LostBoy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20481) - Cheers Leo, glad that you liked it, just a side note, as I know you take a lot of care with your production, some of the Waves old gear emulations made it easier to capture the vibe, it just does it so well , some of the more modern comps and EQ's would have been more tricky. I always try and use the right instruments that were used then, and the prod seems to be a little easier.

I can remember my sister having a spacehopper, as soon as it punctured it seemed to lose it's street cred, a bike puncture repair patch, with gunk and dust stuck to it seemed to drop one down the street pecking order.
My own object of desire (in the '70's) was a Raleigh Chopper bike, but my mum and dad could never afford one, they were sooooo cool, especially in orange, I wonder if @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) had one? John? were you lucky enough?

Thanks again

Rich

Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: pompeyjazz on January 21, 2019, 08:50:05 AM
Couldn't afford a Raleigh Chopper Rich. I used to make my own bikes from bits when I was that age  ;D
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 21, 2019, 11:40:58 AM
@pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) ....but I did make my own go kart, made out of planks, small push chair wheels at the front, and large 20" bike wheels at the back, thought it would go like a dragster...I pestered my Dad for weeks to get an axle made at work, eventually he came home with the axle,  fixed it with U bolts to the rear, Perfect it was....went round the first bend at about 200mph...both wheels bent the axle, he'd made it from mild steel...crash bang wallop, bruised knees, permanently damaged ego and a sorry sight heaving the damaged ex-dragster up the hill, in tears.

So the moral of this sorry tale is.........


Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: SlavaB on January 21, 2019, 01:43:06 PM
Hi cowparsleyman,

Well , I could not expect anything else from you... another great sounding track. Really takes back to 1960s, listening to your sound for some reason I see a black and white TV in front of me :P

Keep up with a good work!
Best Regards,
Slava B.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: The Portrait Piano on January 22, 2019, 02:59:11 PM
Yes Rich I did indeed, a wonderful finishing touch for that added Southern flavour. On an aside, when I'm enjoying a glass of Southern Comfort in the drizzle dreaming of the carnival atmosphere of New Orleans I do wonder if my American counterpart is having a shot of Teachers dreaming about the British April showers...just maybe...

Law
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: adamfarr on January 23, 2019, 08:54:36 AM
Anyone who can rhyme "boots" and "Dr. Seuss" is alright by me (reminds me of my favourite rhyme ever "successful... like Depeche Mode" from Jay-Z). Though on first listen I did hear "bouncing boobs" which is also good (though that may say more about me).


I would not be against every song having a Twist and Shout moment. Great to hear your experiments with different genres.


Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 23, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
@The Portrait Piano (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20602) - That's one of the great things (thangs) about collabs abroad is that one learns a bit more about them, little by little. I never like to intrude since the whole idea is about making music and working together, but occasionally little insights into the other person's life emerge. I've had some surprises with my Korean collabs...

@SlavaB (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19895) - Thanks Man, I'm watching your progress with great interest...I wish you the very best.

@adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124) - Well, I have to admit, Cowparsleywoman made the same mistake with mishearing lyrics...I asked Pam if she had bouncing boots, and she said no, they don't have them over in Texas, she made it up, I was so let down, I thought they were special pogo sticking footware, with special soles and clamps and logos and stuff, but no.

@CaliaMoko (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19928) @redrhodie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=21171) @crystalsuzy (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18947) - Did you ever do any pogo sticking? Did you have to wear special shoes?

Regards

Rich



Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: CaliaMoko on January 23, 2019, 12:37:57 PM
I never did any pogo sticking, but when we were kids we would build ourselves stilts and try to walk around on them. Or maybe Dad built them. The foot pieces were about 6-8 inches off the ground so we didn't have far to fall.
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: cowparsleyman on January 23, 2019, 01:03:46 PM
Yeah, I had those too, I was hoping the stilts would be higher, while my parents thought they were too high...

We also had the baked bean cans upside down with strings on that we stood on and usually twisted our ankles, whilst crying with laughter...such are kids huh?

not having too far to fall is a great idea for a song Thanks Vicki....still thinking of you both...
Title: Re: Lets play a game 1962
Post by: crystalsuzy on January 23, 2019, 01:20:02 PM
Yup, my dad built us stilts as well, and from what I remember they felt pretty high to me ;D Never used a pogo stick till I had kids of my own!
Almost killed myself on it  ;D they also had these moon shoes that would strap on their shoes and they would bonce around on them  ;D dangerous stuff alright :o but then I remember building my own trampoline out of an old bed spring and mattress...worked pretty good actually ;D again not too far to fall  ;D