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Title: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on April 28, 2018, 10:15:25 AM
Hello

What better way to cast off those winter blues and leap enthusiastically into springtime than to write a new song using the drum track from the clash's "complete control" ?

The original drum track is here

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah2h_joGZ8_NqCWNc9l6T6To5Z48

It comes in around 169 bpm  :o

The song can be in any style and genre...or even an instrumental...anything you like.

Guidelines:

All entries to be posted in the “finished songs” section of the forum and marked “drum challenge” with all entries to be posted, if possible, during the last week of May and the closing date to be midnight on Thursday May 31st.

In true punk fashion, the drum challenge is open to any forum member...and to make it extra special...the Moderators @Boydie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18510) @tone (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=1) @nooms (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=11264) @Ramshackles (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=6887) are all invited for this one too.

We'd all LOVE to hear as many as possible have a go at this...so please join in the fun.

Hosted by @PaulAds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20253) with John @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) assisting.

Solo efforts and Collaborations welcome!

The original ideas thread is here http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=15226.0 which may help answer any questions.

Who is up for the challenge?
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on April 28, 2018, 10:16:42 AM
I'm having a go in a collaboration with the lovely Vicki @CaliaMoko (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19928)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on April 28, 2018, 10:22:34 AM
Cheers Paul!! I will be throwing my hat in the ring on this one...

Just been working on it now...it amazes me (not in a big headed way of course) that we write all parts to a song (except for drums in this case). I've almost got my rhythm guitar parts sorted....now just the bass, vocal melody, lyrics and lead guitar parts to go! May 31st here I come!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on April 28, 2018, 12:38:38 PM
Nice one Paul.

Already rolling with this so will hopefully be done before the deadline. Having fun with it!

Good luck with the collab.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on April 28, 2018, 12:45:25 PM
Are we there yet?  :P

 ;D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on April 28, 2018, 12:55:25 PM
I'm nearly done.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Neil C on April 28, 2018, 01:42:25 PM
Thanks guys, great to know the bpm. Haven't done that energetic for about 40 year. Not sure I can play that fast...we'll see.
 :)
neil
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on April 28, 2018, 05:53:50 PM
Just about finished my entry. Playing at 169 bpm is great rhythm guitar practice for sure
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Neil C on April 29, 2018, 06:04:35 PM
And apart from being bleeding fast the structure isn't quite regular.. :-)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on April 29, 2018, 06:06:20 PM
Oh yes ! Just part of the challenge  ;D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on April 29, 2018, 06:56:23 PM
Ha ha! Aye...get yer skates on Neil!

Had half an hour with ye olde 6120 this afternoon...and managed to get a chorus going for the song Vicki and I are working on...and the chords sounded a lot like another song...and then the penny dropped, so I changed it a little so it was the same and made it a secret homage to another favourite band from my formative years...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on April 30, 2018, 12:34:07 PM
I'm up for the challenge. The best thing with these challenges is that no matter what you end up with you still get to listen to the other contestants songs. Kind of reassuring when the third verse is blank. That might be a pun.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on April 30, 2018, 07:50:39 PM
Great stuff, Martin! If you need any help with anything...just shout  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Neil C on May 01, 2018, 06:38:05 AM
PaulAds,
"Had half an hour with ye olde 6120 this afternoon" Like your inventiveness playing on a retro Nokia :-)
neil
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 01, 2018, 06:59:58 AM
Ha...yeah...pre-Fender, of course  :P
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Binladeda on May 01, 2018, 11:24:13 AM

 OK ;D ;D .  I've got it, and will start throwing things at it as soon as ;D ;D
 See you all in May ;D ;D

 Great idea btw Paul ;D

Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 01, 2018, 10:06:16 PM
How are all you guys getting on with the challenge?  Don't forget it's open to all. Would be great to hear some stuff from some new members and if anybody would like any help please give me a shout
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Bill Saunders on May 02, 2018, 07:23:16 AM
I think the word "challenge" is well chosen! I have finished recording my song, I just need to mix it now. The drum beat is absolutely awesome and I loved playing along to that. It's nothing like anything else I have done, which has made it worthwhile in itself. The breakdown was difficult, in that I found it hard to come up with something that fitted in with the rest of the song, but anyway, it's done.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 02, 2018, 07:56:39 AM
Excellent...well done, folks!

It’s a great driving beat...the story goes that “topper” once got sacked from a band for playing too quietly (I think he was quite a more orthodox, jazz-influenced drummer) so when he joined a punk band, he divided to give the drums some hammer. I think this was his first proper recording with the band.

My clash-style one that sparked the idea for the drum challenge

http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=15145.0

was, I think, much easier for me because I know the original song so well.


It is quite a challenge...so I take my hat off to anyone who gives it a go  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: adamfarr on May 03, 2018, 12:19:11 PM
Got a song that nearly matches the beat, hurrah!


It is now screaming at me "what would John Lydon do now?". You have been warned!


(It is definitely NOT a love song...)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 03, 2018, 12:29:38 PM
Great stuff, Adam...unleash the hounds  :P
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on May 03, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
With it being a proper,real live drummer keeping time,the beat does wander a fair bit here and there. For those of us who've become accustomed to the regular beats of robot skin bashers,makes for harder work. You can't just cut bits from here and there and use them elsewhere,because they won't fit! No cheating/shortcuts allowed. :D

It brought it home to me,just how lazy I've become when recording,I'm not used the past couple of years to playing a part all the way through to keep time with the noise maker! Once I settled into the new/old routine,it was like good old live playing or jamming. Maybe it'll even bring a degree of spontaneity to the track.

Btw,I'm sure I don't need to tell any of you Grannies how to suck eggs,but if you think the 170bpm is fast,you can craft a song at half that speed which will still fit the drum track...just saying,it doesn't have to be frantic punk if yer not led that way.  ;)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on May 03, 2018, 02:35:39 PM
This Grannie doesn't have a bass guitar or a midi controller so I've done two versions of the drum track.....one stretched to go at 170bpm fixed tempo and one with a tempo map.....took a while but easier to 'create' a bass track. I'm hoping (through extensive note-taking) to be able to unstretch it all back to its original 'wild' tempo or use my guitar as a midi controller to do the bass - might have to use a different DAW for this.....or go with the tempo map (harder to move stuff around)

So I've got a song and fitted it - moved the chorus parts - got a very rough version....now to decide which way to finally do it....and to do it of course...and to mix it.....4 weeks should be enough though this will be fast work for me!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on May 03, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
Sounds scarily convoluted for a man of my meagre skillz,young Cramer!  :D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 03, 2018, 10:00:46 PM
Yeah. The whole experience of playing a whole song with a "Real" drummer has been illuminating. Long time since I did that. Cut and paste no workee. Blimey @Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra You have been getting right on down to it. There is no way I could do that but I could play bass for you if you want  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on May 04, 2018, 04:34:38 AM
That's a mighty kind offer John and I might well call on you when I've got the shape and method sorted out......don't quite know what I'm going to do yet....makes my head hurt thinking about it.

The tempo map thing isn't hard to do just takes time. Contrary to my normal practice I'm actually trying to get stuff sorted out before I dive into it to hopefully make things easier later on.....making notes....crikey!

I'll let you know how I'm getting on in a couple of weeks. Maybe some backing vocals/harmonies as well?

Cheers!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 04, 2018, 06:39:55 AM
Hey, no problems @Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Boydie on May 05, 2018, 07:05:07 PM
I had a sit down with this today and have my rhythm guitars and bass done  ;D

No idea where the melody or lyrics are going to take me! - but I really like my bare bones rhythm track (and I have no idea if they sound like the original track or not!?!?!)

The drums are very "live" with the bpm raising from 169 at the beginning to 179 at the end!!! - great fun



Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 05, 2018, 08:00:39 PM
Yep. It's an absolute hoot this one. Especially with the variable bpm. Would encourage anybody who hasn't had a go to go for it
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on May 06, 2018, 07:01:59 PM
I've written one song so far that doesn't agree withe the drums.
Maybe I should write one that does.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: dasntn on May 07, 2018, 05:06:27 PM
At the suggestion of @adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124) I'm going to have a go!

Using it for an alternative, punky version of a song I have just recorded, which I've had to slow down (!) to get to 169bpm. Bass and guitars done, just the vocals to go - great fun!!

Dave
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on May 07, 2018, 05:40:56 PM
Great to see you're going to give it a go Dave.

Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on May 09, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
I'm having a whole bunch of fun with this!

Most issues have been getting Ampire to make the guitar sound like a shy, hormonal and frustrated teen.

Also an effect question to everyone: Can you use a limiter after reverb efficiently without it jumping up and down gating the after trail of the reverb? 
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Boydie on May 09, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
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Also an effect question to everyone: Can you use a limiter after reverb efficiently without it jumping up and down gating the after trail of the reverb?

@Martinswede (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20851)

What effect are you after?

If you are using the limiter as a hard compressor then the limiter will most likely not be active on reverb tails (i.e. You will likely only need to set it to catch the peaks and high volume parts allowing you to turn everything up without clipping)

What are you trying to achieve with the limiter?
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on May 10, 2018, 09:34:30 AM
Thank you for your reply @Boydie (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=18510) !

I use the limiter to get rid of the highest peaks so it's easier to get a volume that matches the other tracks.
After reading what you wrote I think my problem might be a too high input gain. It might be better to increase the volume after the limiter and not before... or?

The problem first occurred when I mixed vocals that changed a lot in volume.  There were both super high peaks and high peaks and I tried to fix it all at the same time. Retakes might seem like the best way to make things better but it was not an option.

Martin
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: adamfarr on May 10, 2018, 10:02:51 AM
Martin - if for vocals, not sure a limiter is your best option - I think certainly compression and then maybe volume automation, but limiting sounds very drastic... (though if anything it might lift up the reverb tails? I would probably compress before reverb anyway...). Depends on a lot of things of course and how it sounds to you...

Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on May 10, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
Hi @adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124) !

Thank you for your advice!

The whole question was kind of a sidetrack and I don't think I will work with similar tracks in the future but it was also the first time I really had to work with highly varying volume levels. When I finally managed to get the vocals kind of even I added reverb and all kinds of things happened.

Anyway. This time I can do more retakes and I've also figure out how to add input compression and eq so I'm a little bit more prepared.

Also I listened to the Limiting episode of the Ian Shepard show. Outside of my understanding at times but mostly helpful.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Boydie on May 10, 2018, 06:10:58 PM
@Martinswede (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20851)

I think using volume automation and compression is your best bet in this situation

Quote
I've also figure out how to add input compression and eq so I'm a little bit more prepared.

I would personally advise against this - a more flexible approach would be to record at a lower level and then apply EQ and compression AFTER recording, which will give you more options when mixing

If you mess up the EQ and/or compression whilst recording (or simply change your mind at a later point) then your recording may affected by the EQ & compression

You may find it better to record "dry" and then apply fx after - or if your PC/Mac has the juice you can add these insert effects and hear them whilst recording (assuming you are still able to keep the latency low enough so you don't hear a delay when recording)

Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on May 10, 2018, 06:20:36 PM
Thanks again Boydie!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Bill Saunders on May 16, 2018, 06:08:42 PM
So, two weeks to go - how is everyone doing with their entries? All tapping your fingers thinking, come on end of May, release the dogs?! Hope everyone has had as much fun as I did. I was mightily relieved that my neighbours were away when I recorded this - but not as relieved as they were!

Bill
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 16, 2018, 06:26:43 PM
Great news, Bill!

I've hardly done a thing...I really need to get something cooking pretty quickly  :o

How's everybody else doing?
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Boydie on May 16, 2018, 07:15:12 PM
Music track recorded and just finished the lyric, which are hardly Shakespeare but will hopefully record vocals soon  ;D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on May 16, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
Song sorted and if today was May 31st I'd have something to post....but want to rerecord everything....in the pursuit of perfection....or at least something better.....not better than perfection you understand.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: ScottLevi on May 16, 2018, 08:30:08 PM
Can't speak for Darren but I am very excited, our entry is coming along nicely :)

Look forward.to hearing and reviewing all the entries - avoided any previews (and the origiinal) like the plague not to be led in a particular direction!

Catch y'all around,
Scott.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Ramshackles on May 16, 2018, 08:32:03 PM
Only just started recording. An overly ambitious track which breaks all the rules  ;D  Not sure I'm gonna have enough time though..... :o
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 16, 2018, 08:41:44 PM
Excellent to hear...thanks to everyone for having a go at this...I can't wait to hear what you all come up with  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 16, 2018, 09:11:21 PM
Great to hear the feedback from everyone for this comp. I think it's been a particularly interesting challenge as it's forced us all to reconsider our conventional methods which can't be a bad thing. I also think that the one week submission window is a really good idea. It focuses attention on the competition for a week or so. I hope everyone has enjoyed this challenge as much as I have. Really looking forward to hearing the submissions as I know that I'm going to be blown away with the creativity out there
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Neil C on May 17, 2018, 06:09:49 AM
Music completed just need to get the vocals done. Enjoyable and interesting, just wish the drummer could keep up! Does he need permission/copywriter crediting?
 ;D
Neil
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: adamfarr on May 17, 2018, 08:25:34 AM
So nearly there. Will be not safe for work, schools, churches or hospitals. But we don't care. (Actually we are a bit in two minds)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 17, 2018, 10:02:41 AM
Music completed just need to get the vocals done. Enjoyable and interesting, just wish the drummer could keep up! Does he need permission/copywriter crediting?
 ;D
Neil

As St Peter would likely confirm, it’s often more expedient to seek forgiveness rather than permission  :P
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on May 17, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Most of the music recorded. Trying to squeeze in as many learning-to-record-stuff exercises as possible. And some automation.
Vocals this weekend. Hopefully.

Martin
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 17, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Excellent news, Martin! Can’t wait to hear it  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: tboswell on May 21, 2018, 08:30:18 AM
Having a go at this myself and over egging it as always.  Should be done by the deadline though, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 21, 2018, 12:17:01 PM
Overegg as much as possible Tom ☺ 10 days or so to go guys. Really looking forward to listening to all the different interpretations
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Ramshackles on May 22, 2018, 09:16:25 PM
I'm going to go right down to the wire on this...dont know if I will make it!
Instruments largely recorded, but no vocals yet and only lyrics for the chorus and I won't have a chance to record between 24th-27th  :o
But pretty exciting!

Deadline is 31st right? Midnight? :D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 22, 2018, 10:00:22 PM
Yeah...deadline is midnight on 31st May

I’ve got every confidence in you  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 23, 2018, 06:57:10 AM
Hi All,

Just over a week to go so I'm kicking off with a submission

http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=15401.0;topicseen

Please post your entries in Completed songs with "Drum Challenge" somewhere in the description by midnight on 31st May.

Good luck all  :)

Cheers

John
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 23, 2018, 08:35:10 AM
Yes...cheers, John!

The drum challenge is now officially open for business...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Paulski on May 26, 2018, 05:13:13 PM
Well I'm having a stab at it, but you're going to have to disqualify me if it's against the rules to feck with the arrangement which my brain won't fathom. Still using the drum track, just moving things around a bit. Is that OK?
Holy crap boydie's right - it speeds up! Oh well probably end up with a bottom-feeder mess anyway  :D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 26, 2018, 05:18:54 PM
Yeah @Paulski (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19241) as Eddie and the Hot Rods suggested, you’re welcome to do anything you wanna do  :P
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 27, 2018, 07:11:30 AM
This is going SO well...I’m really loving hearing what you’ve all done with this.

Still a few days left...so there’s just enough time to get something cooking.

As a special treat...here’s Toppers mid-80’s version of the great Gene Krupa’s “Drumming Man”



I think I still have the 7” of this somewhere...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on May 27, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
Just a quick question.

Is it the same as the monthly comp where each entrant has to review all the other entrants songs to qualify to vote?
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 27, 2018, 09:29:42 PM
Good question, Davy. I’m not much of a fan of rules, but I’d definitely take a dim view of it if someone didn’t bother to comment on everyone else’s entries...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on May 27, 2018, 09:56:55 PM
Yeah,a good way to be Paul.

Speaking personally,I want to hear what everyone comes up with,so the rools don't matter anyway!

 :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 27, 2018, 10:04:22 PM
I'm loving the diversity and imagination of all the entries. About two behind review wise but will be giving them a spin tomorrow.  Great comp
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Boydie on May 27, 2018, 11:34:09 PM
I managed to review some of the songs this evening - WOW! - I was blown away by each and every entry!!!

I just can't quite believe the diversity from the same drum track!

I hope to get mine finished tomorrow but I have enjoyed every single song!!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 27, 2018, 11:56:27 PM
Yeah...it’s been so good to hear what everyone has done in their own individual styles and how they’ve all taken on the challenge and gone on to create so many great songs from such a narrow starting point.

You’re a very brave and cool bunch of songwriters  :-*
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: CaliaMoko on May 28, 2018, 03:00:26 AM
I think I got caught up reviewing today. Tonight. In between showers and bedtime stories for the grand kids. It's kind of amazing how differently the same basic drum track can be interpreted.

PaulAds and I are trying to hustle to finish our entry. I wouldn't be surprised if we keep polishing on it later, but I think we'll get something together enough to use in time. I hope. It may be tight.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 28, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
Vicki sent me some lovely backing vocals - which was pretty amazing of here as I didn't have any melody I could send her...just a backing track...so I've been busy this afternoon and I think we have something in the bag...we're just checking it over but as we're just about out of time (and back to work tomorrow  :( ) it'll do, we reckon.

Couple of days left, folks!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Ramshackles on May 29, 2018, 06:16:20 AM
Threw down some vocals last night, so I have 2 more days to try and whip it into shape. tick tock...
I've been holding off listening to everyone else's until I'm done to avoid being influenced....

@Paulski (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19241) we have been messing around with the drum track as well, so you're not alone...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 29, 2018, 07:44:07 AM
Great to have you involved @Ramshackles (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=6887) good luck getting over the line  :)

Everyone’s free to do anything they like with the drums...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 30, 2018, 10:41:21 AM
List of entries thus far...

Runaway - Neil C/Katie Wilson
So Hot You Make The Devil Sweat - Boydie
Jacob's Ladder - Caliamoko/PaulAds
Only the Young - Martin Swede
Pretty Blue - Paulski
The Good Fight - Tboswell
Mask   - Skub
Burn Burn Burn - Bill Saunders
Epo Man - Pompeyjazz
Corporate Punk - Dasntn
Anger Turned Inwards - DNMC

A couple of days left...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Ramshackles on May 30, 2018, 09:57:49 PM
Argh!!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Ramshackles on May 30, 2018, 10:03:07 PM
How long do we have for reviewing before voting?
I'm not gonna get round to reviewing until I've managed to submit mine - a lot of catching up to do!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 30, 2018, 11:09:53 PM
there'll be at least a week to review and vote...
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: mickyplankton on May 31, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
Absolutely blown away by this competition. Such an innovative idea Paul and the entries are fairly consistently excellent. And each has the DNA of one of my all time favourite Clash songs. It's also a really good example of how production and mixing can transform a drum track. Loving all the subtle differences in each song.
I reckon someone with PR know how should promote this. I'm sure some music sit3s and Clash fan pages would love this
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 31, 2018, 08:02:01 AM
Last day for submissions all  :o

Here's the current entries with the links.....

Still time to get that track nailed - You CAN DO IT  :)

So Hot You Make The Devil Sweat
Boydie
https://soundcloud.com/boydiemusic/so-hot-you-make-the-devil-sweat

Jacob's Ladder
Caliamoko/PaulAds
https://soundcloud.com/thefuneralcrasher/jacobs-ladder

Only the Young
Martin Swede
https://soundcloud.com/k-martin-j/only-the-young

Pretty Blue
Paulski
https://soundcloud.com/paulcanuck/pretty-blue

The Good Fight
Tboswell
https://soundcloud.com/t-j-boswell/the-good-fight

Mask
Skub
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955/mask/s-9ujw0

Burn Burn Burn
Bill Saunders
https://soundcloud.com/bill-saunders/burn-burn-burn

Epo Man
Pompeyjazz
https://soundcloud.com/pompeyjazz/epo-man

Corporate Punk
Dasntn
https://soundcloud.com/dasntn/corporate-punk

Anger Turned Inwards
DNMC
https://soundcloud.com/dnmccollective/anger-turned-inwards

Runaway
NeilC / Katie Wilson
https://soundcloud.com/neilconnor-2/runaway-master-25-may-2018

Words Fail Me
Nooms
https://soundcloud.com/nooms-1/wordsfailme

Skin
Ramshackles
https://soundcloud.com/ramshackles/skin

Perfect World (One Boy / One Girl)
Viscount Cramer
https://soundcloud.com/cramer1930/perfect-world-one-boy-one-girl/s-uVZZ5



 
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on May 31, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
Hi All,

I'm just getting a Soundcloud playlist together but there are a couple of "private" tracks which won't allow me to add to a playlist. If you've got a private track and you want it on the playlist could you make it public please   :)

Cheers

John
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on May 31, 2018, 05:19:59 PM
Ta for the full list John. It can be easy to miss listening to an entry,but I think I got them all.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: adamfarr on May 31, 2018, 06:18:31 PM
Didn't work out for me this time but great comp (and great drums)! Thanks and good luck to all!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Paulski on May 31, 2018, 06:26:07 PM
whoa - that's some list of competitors!  ;D ;D
I still have about half of them to listen to  - hope to get to it this weekend.
Thanks for posting the list (and hosting!) guys  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 31, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
Didn't work out for me this time but great comp (and great drums)! Thanks and good luck to all!

Aw...I was really looking forward to hearing yours, @adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124)

if you have anything you want to pursue after the deadline, I'd love to try to help out if I can...PM me if you fancy trying something...it's been a pretty pressurised month or so :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on May 31, 2018, 08:45:42 PM
Just popping in to say that I am unfortunately going to miss the deadline with my entry (I know I'm in with the DNMC entry so just being greedy - although 99% of the work on that is Scott, he deserves the lion share of the credit!). I'll probably be finished on the weekend and will post it up then but consider it out of the comp! Some great entries up there look forward to working my way through all the tracks!!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on May 31, 2018, 10:01:03 PM
Aargh! It’s been a really big ask, Darren...looks like one great entry will have to do you this time around. I’ll be looking forward to hearing the finished version, though  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on May 31, 2018, 10:07:13 PM
Cheers Paul!

And yeah just been a busy month and I'm easily side tracked >.<! GREAT challenge though
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: tboswell on June 01, 2018, 05:12:42 AM
@pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269)
Hi All,

I'm just getting a Soundcloud playlist together but there are a couple of "private" tracks which won't allow me to add to a playlist. If you've got a private track and you want it on the playlist could you make it public please   :)

Cheers

John

I've made mine public now.
https://soundcloud.com/t-j-boswell/the-good-fight
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on June 01, 2018, 06:27:59 AM
Well Done all of you. I know a couple of you didn't make the deadline and that's a real shame as I think there were more treats in store. Hopefully we'll hear that output soon.

In the meantime, here's a revised list of all the entries. If I've missed anybody please let me know.

Just a reminder to anybody who has a private track, I can't include that in the playlist as Soundcloud doesn't allow me to do that (unless anybody knows better) I've got the playlist setup as a private list and will send the link when everybody is happy.

So Hot You Make The Devil Sweat
Boydie
https://soundcloud.com/boydiemusic/so-hot-you-make-the-devil-sweat

Jacob's Ladder
Caliamoko/PaulAds
https://soundcloud.com/thefuneralcrasher/jacobs-ladder

Only the Young
Martin Swede
https://soundcloud.com/k-martin-j/only-the-young

Pretty Blue
Paulski
https://soundcloud.com/paulcanuck/pretty-blue

The Good Fight
Tboswell
https://soundcloud.com/t-j-boswell/the-good-fight

Mask
Skub
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955/mask/s-9ujw0

Burn Burn Burn
Bill Saunders
https://soundcloud.com/bill-saunders/burn-burn-burn

Epo Man
Pompeyjazz
https://soundcloud.com/pompeyjazz/epo-man

Corporate Punk
Dasntn
https://soundcloud.com/dasntn/corporate-punk

Anger Turned Inwards
DNMC
https://soundcloud.com/dnmccollective/anger-turned-inwards

Runaway
NeilC / Katie Wilson
https://soundcloud.com/neilconnor-2/runaway-master-25-may-2018

Words Fail Me
Nooms
https://soundcloud.com/nooms-1/wordsfailme

Skin
Ramshackles
https://soundcloud.com/ramshackles/skin

Perfect World (One Boy / One Girl)
Viscount Cramer
https://soundcloud.com/cramer1930/perfect-world-one-boy-one-girl/s-uVZZ5


Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: katiewilson1 on June 01, 2018, 07:47:25 AM
I've got a set of lyrics for the drum challenge if anyone wants to take a look - I mean the next one xxx
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 01, 2018, 08:27:29 AM
Well...the drum challenge is now officially CLOSED.

Final list of entries

So Hot You Make The Devil Sweat
Boydie
https://soundcloud.com/boydiemusic/so-hot-you-make-the-devil-sweat

Jacob's Ladder
Caliamoko/PaulAds
https://soundcloud.com/thefuneralcrasher/jacobs-ladder

Only the Young
Martin Swede
https://soundcloud.com/k-martin-j/only-the-young

Pretty Blue
Paulski
https://soundcloud.com/paulcanuck/pretty-blue

The Good Fight
Tboswell
https://soundcloud.com/t-j-boswell/the-good-fight

Mask
Skub
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955/mask/s-9ujw0

Burn Burn Burn
Bill Saunders
https://soundcloud.com/bill-saunders/burn-burn-burn

Epo Man
Pompeyjazz
https://soundcloud.com/pompeyjazz/epo-man

Corporate Punk
Dasntn
https://soundcloud.com/dasntn/corporate-punk

Anger Turned Inwards
DNMC
https://soundcloud.com/dnmccollective/anger-turned-inwards

Runaway
NeilC / Katie Wilson
https://soundcloud.com/neilconnor-2/runaway-master-25-may-2018

Words Fail Me
Nooms
https://soundcloud.com/nooms-1/wordsfailme

Skin
Ramshackles
https://soundcloud.com/ramshackles/skin

Perfect World (One Boy / One Girl)
Viscount Cramer
https://soundcloud.com/cramer1930/perfect-world-one-boy-one-girl/s-uVZZ5

I’d like to say what a real pleasure it’s been to hear what you’ve all done with this. Thanks to everyone who entered, expressed an interest, reviewed any of the songs or anything else. What a lovely bunch of talented peeps you all are.

Thanks  :)

Please take a week to have a listen to all the entries, and then PM John and myself with your top three. Voting closes at midnight on Friday 8th June.

Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra on June 01, 2018, 04:31:20 PM
Shame you didn't get there @adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124)  . I too was looking forward to yours knowing you've got a liking for things punky.

I'll miss you too @Darren1664 (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20970) , promise!

Loving the Freedom Fighters by the way. I know this isn't the place to say it but......time, my man...time!

Still got two more to listen to!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on June 01, 2018, 07:47:23 PM
Cheers @Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra !! :)

I agree about missing Adams entry! Be on the look out for it when it does decide to rear its head :)

Great selection for entries, I look forward to listening to them all!

Cheers

Darren
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on June 02, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
Wow ! I've spent quite a bit of time on this one today. Firstly trying to createxplain a playlist but for some reason Soundcloud seemed to keep rejecting the last two songs. Anybody else had that problem  ? Anyway,  listened to all the songs again and it's incredibly difficult to pick a top three let alone a winner.  More listens required I think
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: CaliaMoko on June 04, 2018, 12:09:35 AM
I have votilerized. It was grueling! I am exhausted! Well, maybe just a little bit partly because all four of my grand-kids were here for DAYS! Well, half of them for a week and all of them overnight. Two nights. Plus a house FULL of people all day because we were supposed to have a picnic but the weather SUDDENLY TURNED WET AND COLD. But never mind all that. The votiring is done. Whew!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 04, 2018, 12:33:51 AM
Got them, Vicki @CaliaMoko (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=19928) ...great picks too!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 04, 2018, 01:14:06 AM
For the record...I have voted too :)

Tough call...but a real pleasure to hear them all again.

Much respect to you all.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Paulski on June 04, 2018, 01:42:09 AM
sorry what's the deadline for voting ? my bad 4 not paying attention... ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Ramshackles on June 04, 2018, 05:11:24 AM
June 8th, so this Friday. I'm still going through the entries, but plenty of time
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on June 05, 2018, 07:49:19 AM
Yep ! - Don't forget to vote before Friday

Tough decisions !
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 05, 2018, 07:57:11 AM
Yeah...votes are coming in...we have a good spread...but there are already three who appear to be forging ahead...

Every vote is really going to count!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: CaliaMoko on June 05, 2018, 08:33:45 PM
I think I have now commented on all the entries. Whew! I didn't have much of anything helpful to add to any of them, but...oh well....something is better than nothing. I think.  :P ::)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 05, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Thanks, Vicki...I think I’ve commented on them all too...I really hope all the entrants will also be able to find the time.

I always find it difficult to go much beyond saying “I really like it” or something equally lame/nondescript. It’s just nice to know that someone listened and took a minute or two to chip in with a remark.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: ScottLevi on June 05, 2018, 09:16:42 PM
I think that's me done too.

Listened, enjoyed, feedback'd, voted.

Apologies if I missed anyone out - tried my best not to. And thanks to everyone for taking part - it's been a real joy.

Best of luck to all!
Scott.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on June 05, 2018, 09:24:39 PM
Great point made Vicki and Paul. It's great to get a listen, and a comment is an added bonus. It's a tough gig working through all these songs for sure but so worthwhile. We've got builders next door at the moment and to their credit they haven't got South coast fm on. Just another shit MOR station. Have just been sitting there withen my phones on listening to forum music exclusively
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Paulski on June 06, 2018, 12:53:57 AM
Man that was a tough choice but I have dropped my ballot into the ebox.
BTW - I just used a roulette wheel - they're all so fecking good  ;D ;D
Paul
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 06, 2018, 09:39:08 AM
Still got a couple of days left to get your votes in...the deadline is midnight on Friday.
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on June 06, 2018, 02:05:41 PM
Votes pouring in now and it's tight at the top  :)

A reminder that anybody can vote and if you've entered you should vote otherwise your entry will be void.

Please PM both @PaulAds (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20253) and @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269)

Cheers

John
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 08, 2018, 11:45:14 AM
Last day to get your votes in!

There are still a couple of entrants who haven't voted yet...and the clock is ticking  :o

Deadline is midnight...TONIGHT!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Martinswede on June 08, 2018, 04:19:38 PM
Now my votes are in. (I might have e-mailed them to you too @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) .)

Will the winner be honored with hosting the Summer (Camp) Comp? Or is it the World Cup this year...

Thanks for a great challenge!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on June 08, 2018, 09:40:02 PM
Votes are in ....sorry for lateness and drunkenness
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on June 08, 2018, 10:44:53 PM
I are voted.  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 08, 2018, 11:54:46 PM
Voting is now CLOSED...I think we are all present and correct...John and I will gather our thoughts and go through the votes again carefully and will hope to make an announcement ASAP.

It's been a blast...a massive Thank You to everyone who got involved  :)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: PaulAds on June 09, 2018, 04:12:36 PM
Results are HERE

http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=15488.msg148280;topicseen#msg148280

Well Done to All !
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on August 31, 2019, 12:43:43 PM
Ok second attemp at posting as I timed out the last time....

I'm sorry to resurrect an old thread but after a long break from the forum I thought I would share the track I wrote for this competition as a way of saying hello (as I never did get it finished in time for the competition...)

Much easier to just say hello I know

Anyway here it is

Land of the Dead -
Caersws boys feed themselves on cans
of alcohol, lighter fluid, anything to hand
searching for the good times in these
love barrens lands
is like searching for the night life
there's none to be found

Hanging on the streets past midnight
rolling our drugs by street light
we're gonna get off our faces
and stumble around this place
Like we're oh ey oh like zombies

Land of the dead
no hopes
no dreams
no love
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Skub on September 01, 2019, 09:24:12 PM
Yo Darren,good to see you around man.

I dig the track,kinda low key punk,subtle,driving energy.  8)
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: pompeyjazz on September 02, 2019, 05:15:07 PM
Hey ! Welcome back Darren - It's been a long time. I thought this was absolutely great - Did you record that at the time and then just decide not to enter or did you do it post competition. There's a great energy there. It reminded me of The Ramones in a lot of ways. Anyway, hope that you're going to be sticking around. All the best, John
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: adamfarr on September 03, 2019, 08:34:22 AM
Hi hi hi - nice to have you back. I also didn't make the competition in time but I'm glad you posted this! Definitely you with a bit of extra punky sprinkle. See you around!
Title: Re: NEW: Drum Challenge Spring 2018...everyone welcome!
Post by: Darren1664 on September 07, 2019, 03:21:53 PM
@Skub (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20061) @pompeyjazz (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20269) @adamfarr (http://www.songwriterforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=20124)

Thanks all :) it's has been a while but nice to be back

Thanks for the kind comments about the track. Pompz - I did record this at the time but kept searching for a second verse that never came and so gave up on it. I recently came back to it, took out some bad takes on the vocals and figured I wasn't far off after all and so it here it is.

Looking forward to catching up on the missed tunes  8)

All the best, Darren