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Title: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tone on October 07, 2016, 10:45:59 PM
Following on from the best gig thread, I had an idea for this thread: what's the best song you know that we won't have heard of?

A great way to hear new music I reckon.

I'll kick the ball into play with this wee number courtesy of the Lost Soul Band - You can't win them all mum

(no idea what the user generated video is about...)

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: S.T.C on October 07, 2016, 11:17:42 PM
Crumbs...i've come across  loads of songs by unknowns that i liked....but i will submit this , not saying their unknown,,actually i saw them do this at the Hopfarm fest in the acoustic tent..although listened to them a few yrs before.

Erland and the carnival.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Sing4me88 on October 07, 2016, 11:21:48 PM
Hmmm.... I'm gonna set the cat among the pigeons with my choice I guess but I.m hoping no one takes offence at the tone of the song. Basically by dint of where and when I was born I've been raised on songs (and poems) of oppression, struggle, resistance, emigration and resilience not just on the national question but also on the class issue too (I'm unapologetically and unashamedly part of the 99%!). Despite writing many daft trashy pop lyrics I have had the privilege and pleasure of enjoying and devouring some of the most profound artistic works ever created.My choice is a ballad called Joe McDonnell that relates the story of the 5th person to die on hunger strike in 1981 The point isn't about getting anyone to agree or disagree with the actions of the guy the song is about but the chorus in the song is still one of the most powerful I have ever encountered. It's not resplendent with big words or abstract imagery just basically calls it as the guy sees it but man does it pack a punch


Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 08, 2016, 12:23:05 AM
heres mine
a bunch of wildboys making a fabulous load of noise ..the hellacopters - gotta get some action now


& to show girls can make even more noise...the donnas - take it off


i just love the raw sound of both these


Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Binladeda on October 08, 2016, 08:03:58 AM

 I bought this 45 in 1968 and played it over and over again,
 drove my family mad......but for some reason I love it ;D ;D

 


 Puts a BIG smile on my face when I listen to it now ;D
 Ahhh....those were the days  ;D

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Boydie on October 08, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
This was a big song in the late 80s in the UK so some may have heard it but it really made me realise how amazing music was

For me it is a lesson in hooks and sampling and is probably the sole reason I am so in to pop music even though I am guitarist that loves blues, rock, funk etc.

Some famous songs/hooks were sampled and the hi-hat is even a sample aerosol spray

This is a great song from my childhood so enjoy...

Theme From S'Express
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zKCW3RJNRIw
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: diademgrove on October 08, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
One of the b-sides of an obscure 1970s ep.

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: ScottLevi on October 08, 2016, 02:23:49 PM
Nice, looking forward to checking these out later.

Going to bend the rules slightly and do a little known remix of a few well known artists (White Stripes, Biggie, Tupac, Big L). Not generally a remix fan but this one has stook with me for years

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 08, 2016, 03:34:41 PM
Following on from the best gig thread, I had an idea for this thread: what's the best song you know that we won't have heard of?

A great way to hear new music I reckon.

I'll kick the ball into play with this wee number courtesy of the Lost Soul Band - You can't win them all mum

(no idea what the user generated video is about...)


This one reminds me of the band James. I love it!
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 08, 2016, 03:38:22 PM
This song, from the 2007 album by The Roches, is a stunner. Reimagines Jesus as a modern-day everyman, struggling to make a life for himself: going to work in the morning, falling in love, and having kids. I adore this song:
"Jesus Shaves"


The chorus still gets me every time:
"Blessed are the ones who make peace
Blessed are the ones who scrape by
Blessed are the ones living holy lives
Here's to the rest of us who try"
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tone on October 08, 2016, 06:42:20 PM
This song, from the 2007 album by The Roches, is a stunner. Reimagines Jesus as a modern-day everyman, struggling to make a life for himself: going to work in the morning, falling in love, and having kids. I adore this song:
"Jesus Shaves"


"This video is not available" :(

Really enjoyed listening to the other suggestions though (except Boydie tut tut I already knew that one) :D
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 08, 2016, 06:43:44 PM
This song, from the 2007 album by The Roches, is a stunner. Reimagines Jesus as a modern-day everyman, struggling to make a life for himself: going to work in the morning, falling in love, and having kids. I adore this song:
"Jesus Shaves"


"This video is not available" :(

Really enjoyed listening to the other suggestions though (except Boydie tut tut I already knew that one) :D
Weird, I just clicked the link and it's working just fine for me. You in the UK? Maybe it's a European thing?
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 08, 2016, 06:47:20 PM
Here is a live version that you will hopefully be able to check out. Only 2 of the 3 sisters in this one, but you can still hear the song.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on October 08, 2016, 10:27:18 PM
Hmmm.... I'm gonna set the cat among the pigeons with my choice I guess but I.m hoping no one takes offence at the tone of the song. Basically by dint of where and when I was born I've been raised on songs (and poems) of oppression, struggle, resistance, emigration and resilience not just on the national question but also on the class issue too (I'm unapologetically and unashamedly part of the 99%!). Despite writing many daft trashy pop lyrics I have had the privilege and pleasure of enjoying and devouring some of the most profound artistic works ever created.My choice is a ballad called Joe McDonnell that relates the story of the 5th person to die on hunger strike in 1981 The point isn't about getting anyone to agree or disagree with the actions of the guy the song is about but the chorus in the song is still one of the most powerful I have ever encountered. It's not resplendent with big words or abstract imagery just basically calls it as the guy sees it but man does it pack a punch




Great song having heard it in a while, its one of those songs that you don't need music to sing it, lovely choice.

This one is sung by Luke Kelly  "Scorn Not His Simplicity"  written by musician and songwriter Phil Coulter, his first son was born with Down's syndrome, as far as i can find this is the only live recording of Luke singing this song.

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: hardtwistmusic on October 10, 2016, 04:56:44 AM
I absolutely was enthralled by "Scorn Not His Simplicity."  Loved the one by "The Donnas."  Liked a lot of these.  

Here is one with no lyrics and one with lyrics.  Almost certain most of you haven't heard either.  

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-avg-fh_lsonsw&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw&hspart=avg&p=David+Arkenstone+%2B+Full+Sail#id=1&vid=91897bb0f66a2a56f737233a2598930b&action=click



The Marty Robbins song wasn't my first choice for an obscure song you've never heard with lyrics.  That would have been "Kelly Told Ann" by Tommy James and the Shondells. . . but I simply couldn't find it.   But the Marty Robbins song is a really good one . . . and environmental song twenty years before it's time.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: hardtwistmusic on October 10, 2016, 04:58:15 AM

A great way to hear new music I reckon.

I'll kick the ball into play with this wee number courtesy of the Lost Soul Band - You can't win them all mum


Great music.  Excellent band.  Marvelous vocals.  Well worth the listen.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: hardtwistmusic on October 10, 2016, 05:00:15 AM
Crumbs...i've come across  loads of songs by unknowns that i liked....but i will submit this , not saying their unknown,,actually i saw them do this at the Hopfarm fest in the acoustic tent..although listened to them a few yrs before.

Erland and the carnival.


They were unknown to me. . . and I'm very happy to have gotten the chance to "know them" via this listen.  Very nice song and I even liked the video even though I usually think they just get in the way of listening.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: hardtwistmusic on October 10, 2016, 05:02:47 AM

 I bought this 45 in 1968 and played it over and over again,
 drove my family mad......but for some reason I love it ;D ;D

 


 Puts a BIG smile on my face when I listen to it now ;D
 Ahhh....those were the days  ;D



My first thought was "Nirvana an unknown band?" 

Then I listened. . . different "Nirvana."  I like this older "Nirvana" better.  Loved the song.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: hardtwistmusic on October 10, 2016, 05:05:01 AM
This song, from the 2007 album by The Roches, is a stunner. Reimagines Jesus as a modern-day everyman, struggling to make a life for himself: going to work in the morning, falling in love, and having kids. I adore this song:
"Jesus Shaves"


The chorus still gets me every time:
"Blessed are the ones who make peace
Blessed are the ones who scrape by
Blessed are the ones living holy lives
Here's to the rest of us who try"


I love social commentary in a song.  Wonderfully thoughtful lyric and a perfectly simple guitar based instrumental to just let the lyric take the lead.  I thought this was a wonderful song.

Thank you Tone for starting this thread.  It's easy to miss just how important it is for a songwriter to understand what inspires other listeners and other songwriters.  This is a very important insight into what people who do NOT live inside our own heads think and hear and enjoy.  VERY important imo.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: ScottLevi on October 10, 2016, 07:13:59 AM
One of the b-sides of an obscure 1970s ep.



Dang think you've just changed my life  with this one, listen to a few more after and he's fantastic!
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: delb0y on October 13, 2016, 07:15:45 PM
How about Darrell Scott and Hopkinsville? Not exactly an obscure artist, but this version of this song is stunning. To me this is just perfect. It was one of just a few occasions when I've literally stopped the car to listen to something, the day I first heard this.

https://youtu.be/8jJ0HSWTAP4 (https://youtu.be/8jJ0HSWTAP4)
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 13, 2016, 08:17:32 PM
delboy those headphones look like theyve got a big extra  speaker on the top...has that man got a extra ear on the top of his head?
He sounds good.... but I want a pair (sorry a triple ) of those headphones!  ;D



Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 13, 2016, 11:13:44 PM
This mid-60s single from a Scottish sister group is fantastic. And has an excellent guitar break from a very, very young (probably 16 years old) Jimmy Page.
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 13, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
And, do any of you know a band called The Cleaners From Venus?
One of the several guises of the wonderful Martin Newell of Wivenhoe, UK. He's been making homespun pop music since the late 70s, at the forefront of the home recording movement.
This one, from the mid 80s is my favorite of his:
"Albion's Daughter"
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 14, 2016, 09:53:12 PM
This mid-60s single from a Scottish sister group is fantastic. And has an excellent guitar break from a very, very young (probably 16 years old) Jimmy Page.
that was interesting... i love jimmy pages session work....was that song realy one of the best youve heard tho?

And, do any of you know a band called The Cleaners From Venus?

yes i know martyn newell ..i live in venus ...i mean essex...& i have a double best of his ....i dont think he can realy sing tho...otherwise id like him a lot

i would post more songs but i dont think most people in this thread listen to what others post
its the same with all these type of threads
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: delb0y on October 14, 2016, 10:13:37 PM
There have been a couple on this thread that I really liked - but as I've said before who needs to discover more personal music? I already have enough 45s, LPs, CDs, and MP3s that I love and that, because time is short, I will never listen to again in this life. I find that thought terribly sad. Imagine loving an album desperately but knowing you'll never hear it again? But once in a while a thread like this is worth exploring. And the forum itself gives me enough new music and means I can avoid Radio 1 :-)
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 14, 2016, 10:36:18 PM
derek I have loads of albums that I love that I dont listen to anymore... I dont need to ..I know them back to front...so I look for new thrills ..I get bored quick...but the best stuff is already forever imprinted in my head
...you sound like a serious collector!
i remember doing that & it interfered with my enjoyment of music  :)
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Sing4me88 on October 14, 2016, 10:52:08 PM
Here's one from the might Ewan McColl and Peggy Seeger 'Companeros' about the Fidelistas and the Cuban Revolution. Hell of a song that captures the tumult of revolution and struggle with an amazing turn of phrase in the chorus. I've heard several covers but there's nothing like the real thing!

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: delb0y on October 14, 2016, 11:34:09 PM
Not really a collector, Tinam. Just a slow learner who is time poor. It's not just music, I read the same books many times because I love them all the while knowing that I'm missing out on new books. I think simply being a musician does impact on the enjoyment, though. It's hard to listen purely for pleasure - which is why I like all those old albums. I've done all the thinking, now I get to do the luxuriating,
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: pompeyjazz on October 14, 2016, 11:42:05 PM
An old fave of mine that has stayed with me over the years is Hunted by The Passions. Check it out dudes  :)
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: pompeyjazz on October 14, 2016, 11:46:26 PM
That Hellacopters stuff is amazing Tina. Check out Demolition Girl by The Saints circa 1977
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 15, 2016, 12:32:30 AM
ive never heard of the passions john but I was never a big reggae fan
but I know the saints & I have a lp somewhere with demolition girl on!
my fave track by them is perfect day ( not the lou reed song!)
have you ever heard their version of river deep moutain high?....amazing!
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PopTodd on October 15, 2016, 02:42:01 AM
This mid-60s single from a Scottish sister group is fantastic. And has an excellent guitar break from a very, very young (probably 16 years old) Jimmy Page.
that was interesting... i love jimmy pages session work....was that song realy one of the best youve heard tho?

As a composition, no not really. But, as an overall song/recording... I adore it. I love the off-time riffing and the energy and the... flat-out rock-ness of it all. A really interesting melding of styles: the mid-60s hard riffing a la early Kinks, mashed up with the girl group harmonies. So yeah... as a full presentation, it is one of my favorites.

If you want pure songwriting, let me think of another one.
How about this?
Maybe since this is a UK-based board, the song might be a bit more familiar to you all, but I promise you that most of my friends here in the States have never heard this one before.
An early composition from Billy Connolly and Gerry Rafferty, as The Humblebums:
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on October 23, 2016, 01:25:28 AM
Richie Havens at the start

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23fr7c_bob-dylan-the-30th-anniversary-concert-celebration-hd-2-3_music
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 23, 2016, 09:03:43 PM
Pat that man plays with his thumb!  that is weird & amazing too...i must have a go ..
great voice aswell & the speed of his strummming !! thats a new wrist joint every gig i reckon



Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: tina m on October 23, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
ok im going to warn you listening to this will make you grab your partner uncontrollably & gasp who is that deranged being on guitar?
& yes that was my reaction when I heard it 20 years ago
my second reaction was I just have to get a guiatr with a tremolo arm
my 3rd reaction a few weeks later was why have I just spent £200!! ...when my brother told me its not a guitar its a pedal steel !
anyway it was the start of my love affair with whammy bars...


i wonder if anyone  will listen tho

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: PaulAds on October 23, 2016, 09:20:50 PM
ok im going to warn you listening to this will make you grab your partner uncontrollably & gasp who is that deranged being on guitar?
& yes that was my reaction when I heard it 20 years ago
my second reaction was I just have to get a guiatr with a tremolo arm
my 3rd reaction a few weeks later was why have I just spent £200!! ...when my brother told me its not a guitar its a pedal steel !
anyway it was the start of my love affair with whammy bars...


i wonder if anyone  will listen tho



I listened...i thought it was brilliant!

mad as a box of frogs, though  :D
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on May 21, 2017, 10:20:54 PM
instrumental

https://soundcloud.com/user-217999490/stonewalls-theme
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on May 21, 2017, 11:26:05 PM
 Sorry but really cool  8)



Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Ramshackles on May 22, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
Sorry but really cool  8)





Lol does 'I shall be released' *really* count as a song we probably havent heard of ?!?!?!...Dylan penned song & massive hit for the band...?!?!
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Ramshackles on May 22, 2017, 11:11:25 AM
I cant understand why this band/theatre group/whatever arent more famous.

This one suits our current weather:



And after that you should definitely listen to 'Bremen' or 'Weathervane'...superb songs...
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on May 22, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
Sorry but really cool  8)





Lol does 'I shall be released' *really* count as a song we probably havent heard of ?!?!?!...Dylan penned song & massive hit for the band...?!?!

Lol haha  ;D  ;D  I did say "Sorry but really cool"   ;D   ;D  and last night was such a great night    ??? 8)
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on May 22, 2017, 11:32:13 AM
I cant understand why this band/theatre group/whatever arent more famous.

This one suits our current weather:



And after that you should definitely listen to 'Bremen' or 'Weathervane'...superb songs...

Love it, lets start a revolution and phone our local radio station "PigPen Theatre Co"



Love this thread   8)

Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Ramshackles on May 22, 2017, 11:36:06 AM
I cant understand why this band/theatre group/whatever arent more famous.

This one suits our current weather:



And after that you should definitely listen to 'Bremen' or 'Weathervane'...superb songs...

Love it, lets start a revolution and phone our local radio station "PigPen Theatre Co"



Love this thread   8)



Aye aye! Ive been petitioning them to come and play in the UK...ive sent them an email per month for the last three months. I think its time to ramp up my efforts.
I dont think they have the money  :'(

This one even has an awesome vid
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: dill on May 26, 2017, 02:38:09 PM
How about some Red House Painters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSOBQsyYGRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSOBQsyYGRU)
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Wicked Deeds on May 29, 2017, 07:55:42 PM
Shawn Colvin is a very big star but many are not acquainted with her fine songwriting.  I had a three hour car journey yesterday and this one was playing in my car -  'Another Plane Went down'.  As soon as it had finished, I went back to the beginning and listened maybe 5 or 6 times

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ud5E1twISZU
Title: Re: The best song we've never heard of
Post by: Oldbutyet on June 19, 2017, 12:32:56 AM
 


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