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Songwriter Forum => The Bar => Topic started by: benjo on May 12, 2014, 09:43:37 PM
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HERE'S A QUESTION FOR THE TALENTED GUYS ON HERE
have any of you thought about X factor or Britain's got talent
just watched at the weekend and saw the two young lads on BGT
the last act and they were amazing I thought
any way I thought how many of you guys write sing play
I've heard some amazing talent on here
maybe its time you give it a thought, I'd love to see someone from here
on the telly, and you'd get my support
tony...
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Cooked for Stacey Solomon at the weekend..does that count ::)
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hey,
yeah I'd say it does she's great funny girl
can you remember what you cooked for her
and does she tip well
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i think it takes a lot courage to go to these auditions....seriously
if these programs are the same as they are over here....trying to compete means they film the auditions, everyone gets something like...30 seconds (maximum)....and based on that the people in the jury feel totally free to make everyone who tries to look like an idiot (which in my case i will do for myself in these 30 seconds already, but then jury is also selected to be capable to humiliate the contestants as far as possible....well in the Dutch versions of these programs they are...)
i never would dare to try that, i seriously would not have the guts at all
and i have far too little talent to have any chance ;D ;D ;D ;D
(and i am too old :P)
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I thought there would be tons of you talented people
I think maybe we're all a little bit shy when it comes to it
it must be hard to do, I don't think I could do it
if I could sing or play that is
I'm just glad you share it on here
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Someone i worked with went to an audition for X factor. She sat waiting for 3 hours then was ushered in to a room with 2 or 3 production workers, or whatever they call themselves. She sang 2 lines. They said, "sorry," and that was that. Never got to see the proper judges at all.
That said, she was a lousy a singer - even worse than me! :)
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hey digger you sing fine
yeah I've heard that myself before
but some of the guys on here really can sing
and some of the lyrics they have written themselves
I think its made for some of our guys on here
is there no one tempted to have a go at it there must be
could be a sobo or paul potts on here
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I am with Dutch on this one. In my opinion the focus of these shows is to entertain and I don't mean musically. The focus is all on the judges and they make outrageous comments at times to achieve this. IMHO these shows harm far more budding careers than they help.
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yeah I understand that, its true
it is all about the judges and they get on my nerves
they do seem to make a fool out of a lot of acts
so mmmmm I get that
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I think you need to:
A. Be young (under 25)
B. Have a VERY thick skin
That rules out many on this forum (including me)
Oh, yeah, and I suppose it would help if you are talented but maybe not so much with pitch correction ::)
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I think you need to:
A. Be young (under 25)
B. Have a VERY thick skin
That rules out many on this forum (including me)
Oh, yeah, and I suppose it would help if you are talented but maybe not so much with pitch correction ::)
Plus pretty and/or incredibly marketable
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'Plus pretty and/or incredibly marketable'
That's me to a tee. ;) ::)
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BGT HAS BEEN CRAP THIS YEAR
to be honest if you think about it, look at Susan Boyle & PAUL Potts their not pretty
but they became mega world wide artists,
its a funny old game eh!!!!
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to be honest if you think about it, look at Susan Boyle & PAUL Potts their not pretty
but they became mega world wide artists,
But then again when was the last time you heard someone- barring my grandma- buy Paul Potts album? These people are around for a while but one of the biggest markets for downloaded music is my age bracket and I don't think you'd be surprised to discover I'm not a huge SuBo fan ;)
But then again, I hate One Direction too, in fact I lose a lot of respect for people that go on talent shows because most of the time they haven't worked for it, they've just turned up for an audition and got lucky. They are musicians but not ARTISTS.
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"Then again I hate One Direction too" this gives me hope that there are other teenage girls that have respect for the music industry and not how 'pretty' people look 🙌
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"Then again I hate One Direction too" this gives me hope that there are other teenage girls that have respect for the music industry and not how 'pretty' people look 🙌
🙌 YAS! And I'm sorry but who do 'Union J' think they are? They literally came like fifth on a talent show and they think they're the next best thing with their annuals, posters, cringey merchandise. WHY ARE YOUNG PEOPLE SO BLIND TO GOOD MUSIC? (Yes I constitute Katy Perry as good :))
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well a lot of common sense spoken there
from the generation that is the bulls eye of music
its a murky world in my opinion
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Union J are literally trying to be One Direction. Same with The Vamps and Five Seconds of Summer - the industry's looking for a teeny-bopper replacement and none quite nail it.
Image is everything in modern music. My band's on a massive image-drive at the moment to get 'the look,' including a group diet and splashing virtually all our gig cash on new clothing and equipment. Music's like any other product in that if it's not packaged well it won't be sold. All the talent in the world only counts for so much.
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,
yeah I get that the look is so important
what if union j came before 1D does timing count for anything
like right time right place,
its a tough sea to swim in
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They'd probably be where One Direction is now, the biggest band on earth. As pop acts they don't write their own songs or music, often, and live performance quality is secondary to headlines and recorded. It's image or bust. Sadly :-\
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I always think though, because I always lose respect for artists that don't write their own music, but then if they DID write their own stuff where would people like us come in? Most people here that aren't writing for themselves are pitching to others, so in a weird way bands like 1D are a blessing...although Harry Styles REALLY needs to lose the hair
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hey gallowglass totally agree with you bud
1D were lucky in the sense of time and place
I'd love to see some one from the forum really make it big
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I always think though, because I always lose respect for artists that don't write their own music, but then if they DID write their own stuff where would people like us come in? Most people here that aren't writing for themselves are pitching to others, so in a weird way bands like 1D are a blessing...although Harry Styles REALLY needs to lose the hair
HUGE +1 to that (and about Harry Styles' hair too!). If 1D etc all wrote their own music then every songwriter would need to be a marketable entity with a great singing voice and every artist that was a marketable entity would need to be a great writer. Thankfully for people like me that are neither this theory goes out the window in the real world ;)
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in fact I lose a lot of respect for people that go on talent shows because most of the time they haven't worked for it, they've just turned up for an audition and got lucky. They are musicians but not ARTISTS.
This made me think of an At: Guitar Centre interview with Zakk Wylde, he said (and I paraphrase):
To be a doctor, you need to go to medical school. To be a welder to need certifications. To be a musician, you just have to show up.
(If I can find the original quote again, I'll amend the above) It kind of rings true though, you can get lucky and be in the right place at the right time. Most of these talent show winners make it big when the are in the top 3, but they have no idea how to stay there. Artists/musicians who had to get there by playing the empty bars, learning about promotion etc. are the ones who tend to last longer. Or if they are able to keep churning out the hits (be it their own, or recording other people's work).
That's why you get the Paul Potts and SuBo's of the world. They have talent they can perform, but as soon as all the media hype dies, so does their career. It's like riding a geyser. the water jet shoots you up 100 feet in the air, but then it stops and unless you've learned how to fly, there is only one way to go. the other 2 that spring to mind (and the last time i really watched one of those popfactory shows) was with Will Young and Gareth Gates. They both did well for a while, but soon they faded into the bargain bin.
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I do know what your saying BUT!!!!!!
Simon Cowell always seems to have a go at the ones that have been around so long
because they pick up such bad habits,
and Susan Boyle is just starting a world tour
Will young has done really well thinking about it too
I think in todays music world its get in, hit em hard, get what you can, and get out
funny old game
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although Harry Styles REALLY needs to lose the hair
Instant respect to any girl who doesn't crush on the guy because he hasn't discovered shampoo ;D He's really funny, though. He's been on TV a couple times, and though I hated him for what he did when he first started out he's quite likeable now.
I'd love to see some one from the forum really make it big
Challenge accepted 8)
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challenge accepted, I will hold you to that
and I wish you all the luck in the world with it,
if your in a band, what are they called?
GOOD LUCK BUD