Evening
Well I'm the guilty party who said 'not sure it's a song'.
Firstly let me stress that 1) I didn't mean for a millisecond that it shouldn't have been posted on the forum (I agree the forum is a place for all kinds of music... yes bring on the avant garde rusty gates) and 2) it didn't mean I didn't like it (I went on to call it a 'groovy creative interlude') so I'm sorry CPM if it came across as dismissive or disparaging.
What I meant was that because it has minimal lyrics and no repeating sung melody, to me there are other words I'd use to describe it first (like groovy creative interlude...!). I don't think there are hard and fast boundaries though, was just trying to feed back on how my brain/ears responded to it. I enjoyed it differently to how I'd enjoy a more conventional song, where I anticipate rhymes / structure / repeating melody etc; it pushed different buttons for me which were more about overall vibe and unexpectedness - that's the distinction I was trying to draw. But sure, it does have words which are sung, so who am I to say it's not a song?
PaulyX, aint no thang Man...I'm really cool about what you said, not at all offended..I thought it was a good topic for discussion, it made me think too, a lots of what I play is instrumental, so would I consider them as Songs.
Artists & Songwriters need always to be pushed from one side or another to keep things fresh, I think most of the time we do it ourselves, but it does help of folk point things out, that's why I LOVE to swim here.
@Skub - I think your'e right, it's quite a broad definition nowadays.
@TfZ - Thanks for your input - any Jazz piece with lyrics, but if you do the same as an instrumental does it lose the song definition?
@Ramshackles - It's so interesting to hear this, many EDM pieces have sung themes in but no lyrics, but are they allowed to build sandcastle on the the Song Beach?
@Viscount Cramer & His Orchestra - What if you can't hear the lyric, like Rammstein, or always misunderstand them like The Pretenders, or don't have a clue what they mean like Bowie?
Thanks folk for your answers.
cpm