Writing a new song by emulating an existing song?

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fantasyvn

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« on: March 17, 2014, 12:17:31 PM »
I read a book which suggests a tip to write a new song. You use the existing chord progression and rhythm/groove from another song. You play around with it, then the inspiration will come and you may be able to write a new song based on the original.

I have tried and yes, I was able to write a new song based on this method.

My questions is this: So far I only ‘play around’ with songs that I love.

Do you think this method can work for the songs that you don’t like or love? For example, can you write anything substantial if you try the chord progression, rhythm from a current hit? You know it is a hit for some reason, so you try even though you don’t like it. If you don’t like the song, then can you still do anything based on that song?

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 03:06:48 PM »
It all depends on why you are writing

I am assuming you are referring to writing for commercial pitching?

In theory I can't see why it wouldn't work but I would question the logic of writing a song in a genre you dislike

I would be fearful that this will "show through" in the writing - eg pop is often criticised for having "conversational lyrics" BUT it is very hard to write a good conversational pop lyric without it sounding cliche

If you are not fully immersed in the genre you may end up just writing cliche or a parody that does not sound sincere

There are enough hit songs out there to find some that you like so I would be tempted to go for these instead
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 03:23:58 PM »
I agree , write over something you like,otherwise that`s not going to get your creative thinking going,i would have thought!

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 07:18:19 PM »
Oasis wrote some of their songs like this, jamming to Beatles tunes and ideas extremely long
and really make it into some new songs

but i would not recommend it, i think this only works for a few very talented and creative people, who can in the end separate out what they are doing and adding from where they started

it certainly wouldn't work for me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 01:24:32 AM »
I'd say it generally works. It doesn't need to be a band or genre that you like, but you do need to like the tune, or else you're going to be fighting against it. A very good song for this sort of thing is Biloxi Parish by The Gaslight Anthem, on account of its simplistic, repetitive, bouncing meter.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 04:45:09 PM »
Many of the songs I have written have started as my attempt to write a certain kind of song - "a Joni Mitchell song", "a David Crosby song".

I've been pretty happy with the results, and the finished product never sounds like the inspiration, mainly because I'm not a good enough writer!
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2014, 11:15:54 AM »
I read an interview with Bob Dylan, who said he writes songs by playing a track he's into over and over in his head untill he eventually begins to re-write it in his own way.  "Subterranean homesick blues" came from Chuck Berry's "too much monkey business".  Its not an easy thing to do without sounding too like the original.