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Title: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on April 25, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
I wrote this on guitar a few months ago.
Then I put it through cubase.
I'm pleased with the result. Strangely I found it difficult to sing.

Feedback welcome  :)

I hope you like it.


https://soundcloud.com/rightly/jezebel



JeZeBeL


   if ever a devil was born
violent and rude, a star of the dawn
   if ever an angel fell
 it would be you, JeZeBeL

  if ever there were two eyes
to take the blue from out of the sky
 giving me heaven and hell
 in that same tune, JeZeBeL
    the one and the only
   at times it gets lonely
  soon she will know me. . . better

that's where it is, these are the parts
  this is my kiss n‘ here is my heart
   they say only time will tell
   if it is true, JeZeBeL
       I‘ll not be surprised
      if she tells me a lie
    I‘m just glad t'have met her
       the one and the only
     if she too gets lonely
     now she will know me. . . better

     if ever an angel fell
  it would be you, JeZeBeL . . . JeZeBeL


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Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: Skub on April 25, 2018, 04:59:12 PM
Yo Rightly.

Oh man,this flicks my switch big time.

The first listen and it was straight onto a playlist,I need many more listens.

Right from the off the emotion you invest in the song hits me like a tidal wave,there is no regaining composure.

Every time I read/listen to your lyrics I feel inadequate,like I just make up random phonetic noises to fit a choon,whereas you use them to paint as an artist,which you are.

I'm through typing the trite and banal,I need to listen more.

This is special Rightly,thank you for sharing.  8)
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: Ramshackles on April 25, 2018, 07:16:39 PM
I was drawn to this cause Jezebel is the title of an iron and wine song  ;)

Of course this is quite different...

Love the left field arrangement on this, very inventive and the lyrics are cool.
I think the tune could be stronger to keep the listeners interest...at points its almost like there is no real planned tune, just half chatted (maybe that's the intention?) and some kind of break/chorus would be good as it tends to get a bit repetitive/fatiguing towards the end
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: MichaelA on April 26, 2018, 11:13:33 AM
This suits your voice very well, kind of 'human' and a very human, believable take.

It's like a modern twist on an old minstrel's ballad, and the haunting instrumental elements add to the memorable melodic story. I do like the mood in this one, cool! Simple, but very effective.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on April 26, 2018, 07:52:03 PM
I was drawn to this cause Jezebel is the title of an iron and wine song  ;)

Of course this is quite different...

Love the left field arrangement on this, very inventive and the lyrics are cool.
I think the tune could be stronger to keep the listeners interest...at points its almost like there is no real planned tune, just half chatted (maybe that's the intention?) and some kind of break/chorus would be good as it tends to get a bit repetitive/fatiguing towards the end

I do like this "half chatted" for me the voice is a musical instrument and more, a lead vocal should be able to abandon the fixed melody at any time, an attentive listener will join the dots.
I did consider adding something extra in the songs arrangement but then decided otherwise as another change could too easily distract from the intention of the song.
A less is more sort of attitude.
I think the song resonates with the many people who've been in the same or a similar situation.
I'm happy with keeping the song focussed in what it is, I don't think it needs a quantity of changes.

Thanks for your consideration and taking the time to comment.
I respect your opinion even if we don't agree completely.

 :D
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on April 26, 2018, 08:02:36 PM
Yo Rightly.

Oh man,this flicks my switch big time.

The first listen and it was straight onto a playlist,I need many more listens.

Right from the off the emotion you invest in the song hits me like a tidal wave,there is no regaining composure.

Every time I read/listen to your lyrics I feel inadequate,like I just make up random phonetic noises to fit a choon,whereas you use them to paint as an artist,which you are.

I'm through typing the trite and banal,I need to listen more.

This is special Rightly,thank you for sharing.  8)

Thank you Skub!

There's nothing wrong with random phonetics! lol.
Really, you're being far too hard on yourself.

Yes, I'm an artist, more defined by my limitations than by my strengths, but I'm far from losing interest and only happy when challenged.

The next (new) song will poppy-rocker. I think you'll like it.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: cowparsleyman on May 04, 2018, 12:43:04 PM
Whato Rightly

Nice song, you put it together well too. I can hear it was a lot of work...

Is the intro a bit long?

regards

cpm
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 04, 2018, 02:12:53 PM
Whato Rightly

Nice song, you put it together well too. I can hear it was a lot of work...

Is the intro a bit long?

regards

cpm

Thanks CPM

I don't thing the intro is too long

Others may think so.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: cowparsleyman on May 04, 2018, 03:23:19 PM
That's Cool Rightly, have a great wochenende.

I want to say that I really reading your reviews.

cpm
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 04, 2018, 04:04:44 PM
That's Cool Rightly, have a great wochenende.

I want to say that I really reading your reviews.

cpm

I'm terrible at reviewing other songs. Lol.

N just for the record,
I'm an englisch Einwanderer.

Viel Spass über die Wochenende wunsche ich dir auch.

Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: David Christy Jones on May 04, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
Vocally this reminded me a bit of early Tom Waits. The composition of it is very unique, and the closest I can think of as a comparison is Paul Simon's Insomniac Lullaby from his newest album (Stranger to Stranger).
Really loved it, it's a very understated piece. No need or pull to be overblown or huge sounding, just expertly crafted into a very pretty and multi-layered piece. Great work! :D
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: mickyplankton on May 04, 2018, 05:44:41 PM
Hi Rightly. Must confess I struggled with this on the first listen. But David's review below prompted me to listen again and I'm glad I did. It's a wonderfully crafted delicate song. Deserves repeated listens. Great work. I think your Cubase songs are really blossoming.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: cowparsleyman on May 04, 2018, 06:23:00 PM
That's Cool Rightly, have a great wochenende.

I want to say that I really reading your reviews.

cpm

I'm terrible at reviewing other songs. Lol.

N just for the record,
I'm an englisch Einwanderer.

Viel Spass über die Wochenende wunsche ich dir auch.

No you're no terrible at reviews Rightly, Dann ich muss ein Deutcsche Immigrant sein.

now there's an Idee, ein Teil von ein Sprach and another bit from the other, all the way through, das wird nicht auf dem Boden hoch geht....

ho ha.

KuhPertersillieMan
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 05, 2018, 06:14:11 AM
Vocally this reminded me a bit of early Tom Waits. The composition of it is very unique, and the closest I can think of as a comparison is Paul Simon's Insomniac Lullaby from his newest album (Stranger to Stranger).
Really loved it, it's a very understated piece. No need or pull to be overblown or huge sounding, just expertly crafted into a very pretty and multi-layered piece. Great work! :D

I haven't heard the latest from Paul Simon. 
He does have high Expectations to live up to.

My voice has never been compared to toms before.
For some reason it was difficult to sing, not so on the guitar.
Every time I get going with a daw production I'm breaking new ground.

I'm glad you liked the song.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 05, 2018, 06:19:35 AM
Hi Rightly. Must confess I struggled with this on the first listen. But David's review below prompted me to listen again and I'm glad I did. It's a wonderfully crafted delicate song. Deserves repeated listens. Great work. I think your Cubase songs are really blossoming.

Thanks for commenting Mickyplankton.
Daw productions offer so many possibilities, it can be confusing.
I sometimes look back and wonder how I did that.
Yes, I think I'm getting better with the daw, creatively the future looks promising.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: David Christy Jones on May 05, 2018, 04:12:33 PM


The effects and soundscape kinda put me in mind of this (Best listened to on good headphones or speakers!)
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 07, 2018, 10:29:43 AM
Thanks for posting!
Yes, I notice the similarities in atmosphere there.
Kind of intimate.
I was forgetting how good he is.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: PaulyX on May 07, 2018, 06:12:29 PM
Hey Rightly
I liked the swooping strings on this a lot.  And the line "soon she will know me... better", that's a bit sinister and lends the lyrics an edge.
For your stuff this one felt slightly more conventional to me.  I think I'm in the "could do with more variation in the second half" camp but I can see from your comments you've already decided that's not what you want to do with this one, so respect for that.
Your voice sounds close to John Martyn on this to me.  (I expect you've had that one before?)
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 07, 2018, 06:44:29 PM
Hey Rightly
I liked the swooping strings on this a lot.  And the line "soon she will know me... better", that's a bit sinister and lends the lyrics an edge.
For your stuff this one felt slightly more conventional to me.  I think I'm in the "could do with more variation in the second half" camp but I can see from your comments you've already decided that's not what you want to do with this one, so respect for that.
Your voice sounds close to John Martyn on this to me.  (I expect you've had that one before?)

Well maybe you're right, I could made some change in the second or third third, but there's no way I wanted a structural changes. Decoration, if anything.
John martyr, eh?
Yes I've had it before, checked him out n forgot him.
I hope he's good.

There's a place where my voice falls apart and indisputably fails, but don't tell anyone. . .

"they say only time.'
I ran out of steam.
I don't know exactly why  it was so difficult to sing.
And it vexes me, no end.
I can do it better now. . . And worse. . .
Hmm. Next time.

Oh, it's certainly not my intention to be unconventional.
I do like this chord progression.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: PaulyX on May 07, 2018, 06:55:39 PM
I didn't notice your voice falling apart.  At all.
John Martyn - yes, he's good.  I'm sure you've heard "Solid Air" but if you haven't, for sure check that out.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: rightly on May 08, 2018, 08:40:50 AM
I didn't notice your voice falling apart.  At all.
John Martyn - yes, he's good.  I'm sure you've heard "Solid Air" but if you haven't, for sure check that out.

Checked him out.
He's really interesting. A Titan from the golden age.
 Nobody talks about him around here.
He reminds me of Nick drake but I think he's somehow better.
Hugely industrious.
His voice has a wide range and is soulful, lyrics are poetic and sophisticated.
Excellent guitar. Guitar and singer seem inseparable.
So much quality, I'll have to listen to more of him.

Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: JeZeBeL
Post by: Neil C on May 08, 2018, 08:55:06 AM
Hi, nice to hear some stuff from you.
Liking the backing interesting chord and piano and viola work together. Liked the ending.
Perhaps the vocal could be slightly higher in the mix.
 :)
neil