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Songwriter Forum => Feedback on Finished songs => Topic started by: shadowfax on November 27, 2016, 12:15:41 PM
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Hi all, Just finished this..If you take a listen, I thank you.. :) :)
https://soundcloud.com/knmac/this-lovin-game
Give me the love I need, give me the way I see you,
feels like eternity, I've waited so long,
give me the way you feel, give me a whirl that's unreal,
your gonna make me kneel, I've waited so long,
this lovin game aint easy, this lovin game aint easy, at all,
I am your Ganymede, you are the only world for me,
I'll stay until you see my starlight in your eye's,
I walk along this street alone, don't know which way to go,
Give me a sign so I can follow you,
give me your night and day, tell me your goin all the way,
I wander in dismay, I've waited too long,
this lovin game aint easy, this lovin game aint easy, at all,
I dunno why it takes so long, everything's turning round,
I've fallen headlong,
I walk along this street alone, don't know which way to go,
Give me a sign so I can follow you,
Give me the love so we belong,
Give me the love you know I've waited, so long
this lovin game aint easy, this lovin game aint easy, at all,x2
©KNmac
best, kevin
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Kev,
Neat inverted guitar chords with echo and then the drum and synths come in giving some power. Clear production as ever. Great delayed vocals too, fabulous and a little jealous how do you do that?
Liked the break down and come back.
Thoughts- I felt it could do with something more on the chorus to lift it a tad as it kind of leads you some where and. Perhaps more BV's or synth line or guitars..
Please feel free to ignore.
Enjoyable
:)
Neil
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Kev,
Neat inverted guitar chords with echo and then the drum and synths come in giving some power. Clear production as ever. Great delayed vocals too, fabulous and a little jealous how do you do that?
Liked the break down and come back.
Thoughts- I felt it could do with something more on the chorus to lift it a tad as it kind of leads you some where and. Perhaps more BV's or synth line or guitars..
Please feel free to ignore.
Enjoyable
:)
Neil
Hi Neil..what's an inverted guitar chord? ???
happy to tell you what you want to know about the vocals..PM me.. :)
ta for listening.. :)
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:) Wonderful well-thought out production and lyrics again, I don't know how you keep churning them out. Definitely feels like album material too, this and some of your others will fit together nicely to tell the bigger story.
Enjoyed the progression of instruments, you always build us up nicely and then maintain that interest.
I do like the subtle bits that add more depth to the lyrics too (ganymede, starlight - street alone, give me a sign).
Not really a criticism but I'd really like to hear you play with a more aggressive and less flowing changes to see what you could get away with.
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:) Wonderful well-thought out production and lyrics again, I don't know how you keep churning them out. Definitely feels like album material too, this and some of your others will fit together nicely to tell the bigger story.
Enjoyed the progression of instruments, you always build us up nicely and then maintain that interest.
I do like the subtle bits that add more depth to the lyrics too (ganymede, starlight - street alone, give me a sign).
Not really a criticism but I'd really like to hear you play with a more aggressive and less flowing changes to see what you could get away with.
Hi Scott, thank you for your kind words..If you want to hear something more aggressive from me listen to
Next World, Nightseed, Another lonely night or Spend all night with you (in which Boydie plays an awesome guitar break)
cheers my friend..
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Recurring medieval sounding themes going on in your songs these days,Kev.
No one does the 'yearning' better. Ta for the listen. :)
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I love this! Produced almost like a classic 80s pop song, but with a modern twist. Love the pulsing synths and the moving bass. Definitely a catchy chorus, too. I agree with NeilC - would love to get some tips off you as to how you get your vocals so crisp and clear even with everything that's going on.
I can hear some pretty nice, tight harmonies in the chorus and on the later verses, but they're so shy! I'd love to hear that chorus in three part and with the vocals way up front. I think you could have something really special with an arrangement like that.
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Lovely clean guitar and vocals. Really like it when it picks up in the chorus with the underlying synth groove. The breakdown works very well.
Excellent production as usual. It's another quality piece of work from you Kev.
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Hi Skub..for the life of me I cannot hear anything Medieval in this song..what are listen to it with, and in which castle? :) :) :)
Hi Jack....thanks for the listen and the kind comments, as with Neil, if you want any info..PM me..
John, Thanks for listening mate..always appreciated from someone as prolific as yourself..
best guys..Kevin :)
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Hi Kev, another top notch production and vocal performance, as expected. I agree with Skub about the medieval feel it's something to do with the chord structure. Maybe it's the way it reverberates around the great hall of my castle ;). Good stuff!
Cheers
Jamie
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Kev,
Re inverted chords I just meant the sequence where you use three chords and then reverse the order. It's a neat trick as it sound both familiar and different, you've also choices about whether to keep the same melody or vary it. Like the fisrt two lines
Re delayed vocals I can hear some great delayed echo. Like the the ending of the verses and the choruses. What fx are using ? And what technique do you use? (something with the sends? ) so it comes in after the clean main vocals?
:)
Neil
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this sticks very closely to your recent pop pattern & sounds like music thats designed to be for every occasion...i think you could play this at a wedding or a funeral & it would sound right (you could try it at a medieval banquet but I think theyd burn you at the stake for your pop wizardry) ;D
its lovely stuff & you are a perfection machine as always..
I wished youd used the female vocal more that only popped up once near the end ?..
I dont suppose you will listen to me but you realy need something to set your songs apart from one another ….i wish your lyrics told a story...stories give songs a identity that separates them :)
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this sticks very closely to your recent pop pattern & sounds like music thats designed to be for every occasion...i think you could play this at a wedding or a funeral & it would sound right (you could try it at a medieval banquet but I think theyd burn you at the stake for your pop wizardry) ;D
its lovely stuff & you are a perfection machine as always..
I wished youd used the female vocal more that only popped up once near the end ?..
I dont suppose you will listen to me but you realy need something to set your songs apart from one another ….i wish your lyrics told a story...stories give songs a identity that separates them :)
Hi Tina, I always listen to what peeps say, ignore some and take account of others. I have made an effort recently to produce better lyrics (as you suggested) as in Dust of tomorrow and I thought the lyrics in any way you feel were not too bad ;D (for a pop song anyways) but ultimately in the pop world lyrics are not that important, nice if you've got em..but still can be commercial if you haven't..
I try to write commercial type songs and you don't often hear songs about depression and suchlike in the charts..which is where we'd all like to be I s'pose, and why not!!
best to you tina and ta very much for listening and keep on with those comments..
Kevin :)
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Kev,
Re inverted chords I just meant the sequence where you use three chords and then reverse the order. It's a neat trick as it sound both familiar and different, you've also choices about whether to keep the same melody or vary it. Like the fisrt two lines
Re delayed vocals I can hear some great delayed echo. Like the the ending of the verses and the choruses. What fx are using ? And what technique do you use? (something with the sends? ) so it comes in after the clean main vocals?
:)
Neil
Oh..gotcha...regarding the vocal delay, I use the Abbey road J37 but any delay would work,
it's simple really..first of all set a 1/4 delay, after the delay instantiate a compressor that has sidechain capabilities, send a signal from the vocal track to this compressor via the sidechain, this will compress the delay while the vocal is sounding..soon as the vocal stops the delay will sound because the signal from the vocal track is no longer compressing it, EQ the delay to remove low end stuff so it stands out a bit..
you can adjust the compressor to let the amount of delay through that you require..I have it so there is some delay during the vocal but you don't think you can hear it until you take it away, then when the vocal stops..it becomes louder..
that's it..happy to help anytime my friend :) :)
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Hi Kev, another top notch production and vocal performance, as expected. I agree with Skub about the medieval feel it's something to do with the chord structure. Maybe it's the way it reverberates around the great hall of my castle ;). Good stuff!
Cheers
Jamie
Gotta get myself a castle since everybody who's anybody seems to be doing it.. ;D ;D
ta for listening mate.. :) :)
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Hi Skub..for the life of me I cannot hear anything Medieval in this song..what are listen to it with, and in which castle? :) :) :)
Castle Chez Skub,of course. :D
If you take that intro,it sounds very like a lute type instrument and the whole overall feel gives me 'the minstrel singing and playing in the great hall,while the lords quaff mead' overall vibe.
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Hi Skub..for the life of me I cannot hear anything Medieval in this song..what are listen to it with, and in which castle? :) :) :)
Castle Chez Skub,of course. :D
If you take that intro,it sounds very like a lute type instrument and the whole overall feel gives me 'the minstrel singing and playing in the great hall,while the lords quaff mead' overall vibe.
oh..I take your point, gotta make sure my next track sounds nothing like Medieval then innit!!
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I don't have much to add to what's already been said. You have quite a distinctive style of melody writing and of singing that I like very much. Sometimes there are bits in the melody that I might do a little differently but then it might not be "you" anymore.
My favorite verse in this one is:
I am your Ganymede, you are the only world for me,
I'll stay until you see my starlight in your eyes,
I walk along this street alone, don't know which way to go,
Give me a sign so I can follow you,
It feels the most creative and original to me and it catches my ear.
Vicki
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Hi!
Fantastic opening! Got my attention. Great sound on that guitar (or whatever it is). What is it? And if it is a real guitar, what plugins did you put to it?
Wow, fantastic vocal sound and singing. I'm actually getting goosebumps from this. Great harmonies. Great sound.
Seriously, what a great f**king song! That's all I have to say really. Just wow.. I wish I made this song! :-)
More than I want to write a review I got really interested in how you produced this. I followed you on Soundcloud and can't wait to hear more!
Thanks for this song!
/R
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Hi!
Fantastic opening! Got my attention. Great sound on that guitar (or whatever it is). What is it? And if it is a real guitar, what plugins did you put to it?
Wow, fantastic vocal sound and singing. I'm actually getting goosebumps from this. Great harmonies. Great sound.
Seriously, what a great f**king song! That's all I have to say really. Just wow.. I wish I made this song! :-)
More than I want to write a review I got really interested in how you produced this. I followed you on Soundcloud and can't wait to hear more!
Thanks for this song!
/R
thanks for the glowing review mate ;D ;D ;D
the opening guitar is a cheap nylon stringed acoustic played high up the neck (using a capo) I played each chord separately then joined em together (because I'm not a good enough player to get it that clean in one go ) then added 1/4 delay to the guitar and reverb to the delay (not the guitar)
cheers, Kevin :)
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I don't have much to add to what's already been said. You have quite a distinctive style of melody writing and of singing that I like very much. Sometimes there are bits in the melody that I might do a little differently but then it might not be "you" anymore.
My favorite verse in this one is:
I am your Ganymede, you are the only world for me,
I'll stay until you see my starlight in your eyes,
I walk along this street alone, don't know which way to go,
Give me a sign so I can follow you,
It feels the most creative and original to me and it catches my ear.
Considering how important lyrics are to you then this is praise indeed..thank you..
Vicki
I keep getting the quotes wrong.. ::) ::) need to slow down a bit...
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Hi,
Well up to your usual standard. The track is great as I have come to expect. My only criticism is that your material does all sound similar in terms of the musical palette, subject matter and production. If you took your last 12 tracks and put them together on a CD it wouldn't work but this is not the path that you are on. I just wish I had your skills.
M
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Really nice production - although I think you can afford to push the bass and low mids a bit more as the mix is very "toppy"
I really like the song and there is a nice 80s slant, which is quite en vogue at the moment
It is a very personal thing but I think some dirty guitars would roughen this track up a treat!
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Another great song Kevin.
As per usual great vocals and guitars.
Slick production too
Well done
Sandeep
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Hey Kevin
You never disappoint do you?
Lovely soundscape and as usual perfect vocals and mix.
Wish you'd give me something to nit-pick but none can be found..
I could listen to this kind of stuff all day long :)
Paul
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I always have to remember to turn the volume down before I listen to one of yours shadow because I know it's going to come through loud and clear, this is no different, well put together and produced as usual.
I like the song and the instrumentation , can't really think of any improvements at the moment.
Well done
Yodasdad
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Hiya guys..thank you listening, trying my best all the time,
Paul..was gonna put some power chords in the chorus but thought it would sound too 80's, but it sounds 80's anyway so ??? ??? ???
I'm stuck in the 80's it would seem, ah well, I can think of worse places to be stuck..
best, Kevin :)
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This is one of my favs from Your Kevin...I love the production and the melodies...it is all as crisp and smooth as chocolate buttons. The drums are kicking.
I would love to hear some more harmonies on the chorus from the go but thats just a suggestion. Great use of mood, taking the song up and down when needed. And Tina is right about the female vocal, it really adds something and you should use her more. But this is truly fab in any case.
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Hi - great listen - lots of variation between the sections and I think you may have borrowed my "special" guitar for that picking part! I think the tempo and lifts are well chosen - pefect pop arrangement I would say - with that human guitar adding something extra.
Really smooth sounds (again!)
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I'm stuck in the 80's it would seem, ah well, I can think of worse places to be stuck..
There is undoubtedly an 80s feel to your work, which is part of your very distinctive "sound"
I think this is something that should be celebrated and even exploited - I would love to hear you consciously try to create an 80s song - which would be VERY pitchable for TV and film at the moment ;)
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Hey there Shadow........nice and clean, very crisp on the ears.
It's a moving piece, with a nice groove / energy. I really like the performances (AS ALWAYS)......you are miticulas with your productions, as well :o ;D
Good stuff, man!!
8)-Tom
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hi Kev
i listened straight away - as i always do with your stuff - and then came back to drop my admiration in...
can't really add much...i did get a medieval-type feel at the start and in the breakdown around 3:00...reminded me a bit of Richie Blackmore's fairly recent stuff
were you wearing a pointy hat, by any chance?
was there a bit of hiss right at the end of the file? i know you're a bit of a perfectionist with your productions...just a tiny thing, anyway...