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Title: Say It Again
Post by: MartynRich on July 23, 2016, 09:04:06 PM
While I go frantically finishing my comp entry, here is one from a while back. Very rock-poppy this one, but I won't say anymore than that...

https://soundcloud.com/martynrich/say-it-again

Say It Again

And I´ll say it again
There was always been
A way to find another
Lady like my friend

If I´m holding back
I´m in a restless mood
Creating all the time
A never-ending feud

And if I say you were a reason to be
It´s coz I hoped you´ll find something in me

If I say too much I will say it again
What´s the point of stupid games if they never end?

If the tears flow
Just the way it goes
Dream up another skin
To hide away the lows

Keeping cool
Never been a fool
Dreaming up some give and take
Keeps me back to you

And if I say you were a reason to be
It´s coz I hoped you´ll find something in me

If I say too much I will say it again
What´s the point of stupid games if they never end?

If the tears flow
Just the way it goes
Dream up another skin
To hide away the lows

If I say too much, I will say it again
What´s the point of stupid games if they never end?
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: MartynRich on July 23, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
I have just realised Ive broken the 2 week rule by three days. Please don't tell me off  :)
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: pompeyjazz on July 24, 2016, 12:23:55 AM
Martyn, you deserve to have your knackers carefully removed from the rest of your body with a red hot knife. Anyway, back to your song. I really enjoyed it. Ok it's eighties sorta power rock but wtf. Love the vocs and the power chords  :) Pint waiting for you at the Colin Campbell  ::)

Cheers our kid

John
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: tina m on July 24, 2016, 06:44:46 PM
some lovely guitars at the start & this was my favourite part of the song so im glad you repeated it...then the big ballad guitars roar in & take it to Bon Jovi platinum seller land !
it sounds a bit dated with those power chords but I still like some of that massive global arm waving sound

your wife has a realy good voice & the song has some very catchy moments....
at first i didnt think the lyrics made sense bcos they arent written any way that way youd talk ...& that was accentuated by your wifes accent which sort of worked against them a bit

martyn I know im always complaining about things being out of tune in your songs but the lead guitar sounded a bit out of tune  :)
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: MartynRich on July 24, 2016, 08:17:16 PM
@John - thank you for the compliments. Yes a bit 80s but what the heck, that´s where I learned about music :) See you down the pub

@Tina - thanks for the compliments but you´ve finallly beaten me into submission. From now on it´ll be all synths and Cher-effect vocals  ;D
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: Skub on July 24, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
Yo Marteeen senior.

Liked the song,yer missus alternated very well between the quiet bits and the rowdy bits. I reckon she could do a fair old impression of Axel Rose,what with him having a gurly type voice,in his early days at least.  :)

The only part that jars a bit with me is the 'reason to be' line. It sounds rushed and distracts a little. Could be just me,mind.

Rock on Marty boi.  8)
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: Neil C on July 25, 2016, 03:10:39 PM
Martyn,
Good power ballad nicely sung and with a very powerful chorus. Its one of those set of chords you just have to repeat over and again and slowly fade on the outro, maybe with some soloing as well. ;D
I do like it but think some further mixing and recording could make it more powerful and poignant and end up with that repeating slowly fading ending...
And agree with sub about the 'reason to be line' for me it should scan with something in me
 :)
neil
 

Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: LostBoy on July 26, 2016, 10:56:36 AM
Ha! I love me a power ballad!! It's all about the chorus and this one doesn't disappoint mate.Yeah the mix could use a little TLC but you alluded to this being an old track so I imagine you've learnt a lot since then.Your wife sings this very nicely.

I can see the video for this...you guys on top of a mountain playing to a lonely eagle,big hair and shoulder pads!

So...how big is this vault of yours? Are we talking Prince?? Or more like Chesney Hawkes??!!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: tboswell on July 26, 2016, 02:48:39 PM
Nice epic feel to this one with some epic guitar work to going along with it (and some epic drums fills!!).

Liked the break down to acoustics at the end.

All in all it delivers on the epic ballad promises very nicely.

Tom.
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: MartynRich on July 26, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
Thanks again for the reviews...I was interested to see what kind of reaction it got because it´s definitely not one of my favourites (in my opinion), yet it is easily the one that has come nearest to being published on a few occasions. I´m not talking just an ´oh yeah, that´s lovely´from an A&R man either...

To be honest though, I doubt I would produce something like this again.

@lostboy - I am the one and only!  ;D
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: Movin Flavour on July 27, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
Lovely ballad,

Great guitars and your wife sings really well.

Love the different segments in the song.

One to chill out to at night to.

Well done

Sandeep
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: digger72 on July 28, 2016, 08:53:08 PM
Hi Martyn,

Very good song.
I do like power ballads. Thought your good lady carried it off very well.
Definitely no Cher-effect vocals please - I hate that sound with a passion. ;D
Liked the builds within the song.
As an 80s rock fan it sits well with me.

Digger

Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: nooms on July 29, 2016, 02:03:07 AM
yes definatly got that stadium thing  flickering mobiles
real nice gtr leading it in
strong passionate vocal and a stand up chorus really good and harks back ..
hits those buttons and can understand why you got some interest in it..
bridge is kind of queen like and a little wobbly i thought but i get the picture .
think its well worth tinkering under the bonnet cos this could really roar
it might be retro but what isnt these days..





Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: delb0y on July 29, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
Lovely. Really beautiful song and very well sung. Highly impressive and enjoyable.

I prefer the stripped down verses - but I get the need to go big. I think it could be even bigger if you're going to go into rock mood. It felt like those sections still had one foot in the acoustic world. Just go for it and blaze away. I think the song and the vocals are easily capable of supporting a full on rawk arrangement.

Cracking work.
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: AlzieBear on August 15, 2016, 07:36:46 PM
"If I say too much, I will say it again
What´s the point of stupid games if they never end?"

Favourite lyric. Very honest and fits in nicely with the tune.

Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: shadowfax on August 16, 2016, 12:29:26 PM
Lovely intro and what a nice vocal..! like the heavy part and back to smooth and soft...

this is good work my friend.. :) :)
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: Oldbutyet on August 16, 2016, 08:29:26 PM
Really lovely song everything about it has a great feel to it, ready and made for radio would hold it own.

Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: MartynRich on August 16, 2016, 10:05:34 PM
An unexpected bump guys...thks for the feedback. Always appreciated!
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: rightly on August 18, 2016, 09:27:17 AM
nice song.
is this what they call a power ballad?
I always like any amount of guitar solo, I can't do it myself at present.
Good job.
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: Tian on August 20, 2016, 06:15:10 AM
I like your song, listen to it right now!
Good production and sound!

cheers man
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: CaliaMoko on August 20, 2016, 04:59:38 PM
Another great song! These forums are so full of wonderful songs...why don't we hear them anywhere else???

I have no nits for this song. And yet another one I'd love to add to my repertoire. Thanks for making it downloadable so I can listen to it whenever I want. :)

Vicki

PS: What's the definition of a power ballad?
Title: Re: Say It Again
Post by: MartynRich on August 20, 2016, 09:17:49 PM
I have no idea what a power ballad is Vicki...one where you plug the instruments in? Thanks for the feedback anyway and to the others as well. Very encouraging. Going to lock the thread now...onwards and upwards!  :D